Kitesurf Jump height measurements......... on your smartwatch?

I gave it a go at the end of my session. Definitely my favourite app now as I got my first 19m jump

Happy to forward back to backs against woo if that helps as I had both running at the time. Might be my poverty spec 245 but it sort of seemed to crash at the end (10 minute session) and I have no idea how to access the intermediate jumps in Garmin app although all the GPS and heart rate stuff is there.

Seems good for a beta. Jump height a bit inconsistent (once high but often less than 1m). Hangtime seemed relatively close though.

Good work!

0.2.6 Released.
Three crash bugs fixed, added developer tools, detect sensitivity changed, minor jump height calculation change. Still expecting mid Dec jumpt height major update

At the end of the session, did you scroll up / down through the jumps the see how many it detected?

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Xponti said..

Xponti said..
Thanks for the link, and the work you put into this. Going to try it this weekend... Although the only Air i get at the moment is the accidental air....

When I used it on the weekend (and I left the water a total of ZERO times) I now have a record of 2.1M high jump and a 50.1m long jump and a 9 sec hang time.....

Did you punch the air in triumph at any point

Version 0.4.3 Beta released,

False jump detection improvements, along with CGM end of session statistics bug fixes.

Jump Height Improvement update coming later this month

I wouldn't rush out to buy one just for this app, as it's still in beta - and there is a small chance, a small small chance that I don't get there.

Having said that, my other app just just about everything under the sun except the kitesurf jump heights.
Called Sail Racer, and allready has post session summary data in the Garmin Connect Mobile app stlye

Since I already have woos I will prob just stick with that but if I was starting out and just wanted to track my jumps and progress with just a watch I reckon I would use ir until I got to the point where I wanted to spend the extra cash and get a woo (or two)

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zlatko said..
If WOO is the "golden" standard, then you are putting it to shame! A general device without dedicated HW, "one-man army" of SW developers achieving similar results/accuracy in couple of months as an entire company over years span and multiple iterations of the HW! Amazing! Thank you!

Thanks

I hope I can get the jump heights as accurate.... moderately confident at this stage.

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mk04 said..
The only app that does watch only height measurements is the Surffr app. And you need to pay for the pro subscription. It's good value and it allows your Apple watch to measure all aspects of your kite session. Soon to come on wear Os. Wont be on garmon for a while. Check out the website

Incorrect.

My app is watch only, and that is any Garmin watch.
Here is my latest comparison with the WOOs :)





I would compare with Surfr, but I don't have an applewatch. I find them too heavy on the power use compared to garmin for outdoor stuff.
Blue is my Garmin watch app, the green lines are the 2 x WOO's (One is WOO1, one is WOO3). Jump height on the left, jump number along the bottom

Stuff me.... nice jump :)

As I said on the " other" thread.. making progress on the coding side, but I really, really need some strong wind bigger jump data (hopefully this weekend )

I got all my testing equipment ready, and whenever that happens the wind normally dies :)


fenix 6 pro is a nice watch !

Quick update,

Got the data I was looking for, and started a comparison with two alternate codes, and so far they are both very similar.

Also I have discovered a bug, but have not yet discovered exactly how it's getting in there. Is producing different jump heights ..... sometimes...... from the same data, which is a head scratcher at the moment.

The next beta will be called 2.0 since it has completely new jump height implementation.

Thanks mate...

I've had plenty of user feedback also.

This weekend, I'll try adding a jump graph to the Garmin session summary.

I still have a yet undiscovered bug in one half of the AI part of the jump calculation, having difficulties finding where it's coming from. Once that is figured out, I'll add the AI stuff to the next beta.

Kitejump Beta 2.0 released
Fixed app crash error
Added post session jump height in Garmin Conmnect Mobile
Fixed post session summary data in Garmin Connect Mobile
Improved Jump data accuracy

Keep the feedback coming !
Nick

Start jumps are super choppy ( About 1 - 2 feet, and high speed ramming into them....
Last jumps are where the Woo1 and woo3 are similar, that is in very flat water 10% the size of chop, and I could go max speed, I could not in the chop.

Pretty clear the Woo's struggle a little with the heaving banging into chop - hence the difference between them. I don't know which one is correct, but I would assume new hardware + new software should mean the 3 is more accurate.

Having said that, they both missed or underscored what was undoubtedly a gargantuan jump by me in that session.

Having the watch mounted on the wrist removes a lot of that issue, but introduces other issues which are always there, which is why you can see the accuracy is there or there abouts in chop, or in flat water. Makes not much difference to a wrist mounted watch.

I can tighten that up too, and have a path ahead to do it.

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thered said..

dachopper said..
Kitejump Beta 2.0 released
Fixed app crash error
Added post session jump height in Garmin Conmnect Mobile
Fixed post session summary data in Garmin Connect Mobile
Improved Jump data accuracy

Keep the feedback coming !

Thank you so much Nick for putting all that time and effort into developing this amazing app!!

I would also like to agree and disagreee with you about what people want from this apps.
Yes, of course the posting/sharing in socials and friends is a huge factor, but I believe there's no much point of doing that if the measurements are all "fake"
A few sessions ago I crashed and my watch screwed my all time record with a phantom 28m high jump

Anyway, will try the new update release as soon as the wind is back.
Thank you again!

Thanks thered,

Trying the perfect the measurements really is a never ending problem.
Let me know if you get any crashes, or anything that seems unrealistic.
For sure there is big upgrades in the 2.0 beta calculations, vs the previous beta, and there is always room for more improvements.

You should be able to reset your records aswell in the menu once the app is on. They will also reset in the Garmin Connect Mobile app - again limited testing on that part as I've not been out there in it since the release.