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Sab foil kit to start with. Good idea?

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Created by w100 2 months ago, 26 Nov 2022
w100
WA, 185 posts
26 Nov 2022 2:19AM
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Hanging on the net found a Sab foil kit (W1100/483/70 cm hs/93 cm mast plate base).
For beginner at 180cm/80kg what could be the use and wind range?
Board and wing size to fit with?

P. S. Is it an easy foil to start with and handle?

BritWinger
70 posts
26 Nov 2022 5:47AM
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Yep, that's a beginner foil and will get you up in very little wind. Lots of people start on that setup.

As a beginner you'll need around 12kts (15kt gusts), but once competent that foil can get you going in about 9-10kts (12kt gusts) with a 5m.

You will want to replace it when you get better ( or keep it as a session saver in light winds).

natho6026961
WA, 111 posts
26 Nov 2022 12:06PM
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Great foil to learn on. Get a decent size board mate at least 110L.

BenC
WA, 10 posts
26 Nov 2022 2:52PM
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Yep great kit to start with. Get yourself a 5m wing (boom rather than handles in my opinion) and a board 20ltrs above your weight and with very little rocker for easy take off.

w100
WA, 185 posts
26 Nov 2022 9:22PM
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Got a chat with a some of the locals. They're level is just average (the sport is new in our regioun and transition from other water sports has been slow). Some of those guys got the chance to test some sort of Sab (to be honest i've not yet figured which) and they say this was slow to get up and going (compared to RRD or fanatic) and a bit unstable. No idea if their report might be reliable but that's what i've got when asked. So, please, may be a reason for those comments? Something wrong with tuning? Or this foil is really not plug&play for avg level people?

What kind of wing i should get to start? From what i've read i should stay around 5 mq but there are really many many brands and models. Easy access to takuma wk 900, tahe alize, sic raptor. But no pb to consider any other stuff. First goal starting and progressing as soon as possible. Later i will see the direction to evolve towards.

Being a windsurfer since long i'm not afraid with rigid boards. Would like to avoid inflatable ones. Still easy access to takuma, sic, tahe....

ZeeGerman
244 posts
27 Nov 2022 12:08AM
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Nothing wrong with this foil, the local people on the beach might have referred to other wings from the wide range of sabfoils or might just not have a clue. It's big, lifts early and is surprisingly fast for its size. The only downsides I see are pricing and its sharp edges compared to some other brands' foils (e.g. Gong X-Over XXL, even tamer, a bit draggier, no sharp edges).
Wing size between 5-5,5, I would go for what's easily available in your local shop, board about 100 Liter for your weight. Rigid or inflatable? Personally, I've never felt the need for inflatable as wingboards are quite compact anyway, performancewise rigid will be better for sure.

Taavi
79 posts
27 Nov 2022 1:17AM
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Exactly as @ZeeGerman said above.

The w1100 / s483 combo is perfect for learning. And later, once already at "pro level", it will be a killer front wing for these desperate light wind days, given that you would use it with a smaller stabiliser.

BTW, @w100, the foils do not have a wind range. They just have different speed range where they are the most comfortable and easy to use. That said, the w1100 is not a slow foil at all. What limits the upper speed range of the w1100/s483 combo a bit is the stabiliser. But using a big stabiliser like s483 is the way to go while learning. As the name says - this is that makes the foil stable.

And there is nothing wrong with riding a bigger foil with a small wing in strong winds, I'd even say that it's the best way how to progress to small boards. All kind of crazy looking combinations can work just fine, at least I was comfortable with a 40 litres board after one month of wing foiling, with this foil in the beginning.

Happy learning and discovering!


Faff
VIC, 1030 posts
28 Nov 2022 2:21AM
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They have really sharp edges.

ZeeGerman
244 posts
28 Nov 2022 1:59AM
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Faff said..
They have really sharp edges.



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Faff said..
They have really sharp edges.



They do. You shouldn't poke them through your wing.
I've met people who cut those sharp tipps into a round shape. They claim it makes it a better foil that doesn't lose much low end but can be turned in amor variable manner. They apparently feel more like a 999 then.

ActionSportsWA
WA, 888 posts
28 Nov 2022 2:41PM
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Yep really good set to learn on, if you were more in the 70kg range you would probably go w950 instead of w1100, like others have said, pair it with a board at least 25L over body weight and a 5 or 5'5 wing in WA. if you have any other q's give us a call in the shop!
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