Am now looking to buy a fox 95 for general blasting ,bump and jump anyone experience of the fox .95
Buy it!
I have the 95 and the Fox 120.
I use them in choppy water, great boards with good control. Never problem with the heels outside the board.
They are not slower than the Starboard "Futura" in flatwater. In choppy water they are a lot better than the Futura.
JJ
Hi
Has anyone used this Fox 95L board with cambered sails?
I am looking for a board with around 60cm to 61cm width to match with my Overdrive 5.1 to go out in 30 to 35 knot of wind and choppy waters.
I am 82KG and a experienced sailor going out on Isonics and Overdrives from 8.6 to 5.1 but struggling when the wind goes over 30knots because of the choppy waters, i am not confortable in slalom boards over 30kntos :(
Any experience and help?
Thanks
I haven't tried the fox yet, but Twan Verseput has done 41 knots on the 95 fox with a severne reflex. He has incredible skills, so perhaps the speed says more about him than about the board, but the fox does seem to work with race sails. The old futura 93 also works in choppy waters and takes race sails very well. Might be an alternative if you're not into matching color combinations (fox with an overdrive is almost a fahion statement!).
Select to expand quotepoehaaa said..
I haven't tried the fox yet, but Twan Verseput has done 41 knots on the 95 fox with a severne reflex. He has incredible skills, so perhaps the speed says more about him than about the board, but the fox does seem to work with race sails. The old futura 93 also works in choppy waters and takes race sails very well. Might be an alternative if you're not into matching color combinations (fox with an overdrive is almost a fahion statement!).
Ahahahah.....liked the (fox with an overdrive is almost a fahion statement!) 
I used to had the Futura 93 back in the day.....but now only Futura )7 with a width of 67cm :(
I am not worried about the speed, in more than 30kntos i am worried about control and confort on hetic conditions.
Thanks for the reply
ive got me a 95 for a while, used it only with ka race 6.3 and 7.1 and i love it when the water is rough. The only thing that i have to get used to is the smaller tail which gives less lift then slalomboards, so underpowered i even used a new carbon model select s1 pro 35 , 35knots 2sec was very easy and was not even fully powered up. Got a s1 high wind 33 for the 6.3, also nice. A shame i cant compare my z-fin and f-hot fins on the fox ;-(
Select to expand quotespridget said..
ive got me a 95 for a while, used it only with ka race 6.3 and 7.1 and i love it when the water is rough. The only thing that i have to get used to is the smaller tail which gives less lift then slalomboards, so underpowered i even used a new carbon model select s1 pro 35 , 35knots 2sec was very easy and was not even fully powered up. Got a s1 high wind 33 for the 6.3, also nice. A shame i cant compare my z-fin and f-hot fins on the fox ;-(
Hi spridget
Thanks for the reply.
Do you think with a 5.1 3 CAM sail in 35 knots of wind and hard chop the board is still controlable?
I am having a hard time findind a good setup for more than 30knots of wind :(
I have been trying my 5.1 Severne Overdrive with a Exocet WARP 80L board (58cm width) with a 29, 30 and 31cm fins, in high wind but now working....lots of tailwaking.....spinouts and crashing :(
Maybe it is the rider that is sh****yyyyy :)
Select to expand quotemmilhazes said..
Hi
Has anyone used this Fox 95L board with cambered sails?
I am looking for a board with around 60cm to 61cm width to match with my Overdrive 5.1 to go out in 30 to 35 knot of wind and choppy waters.
I am 82KG and a experienced sailor going out on Isonics and Overdrives from 8.6 to 5.1 but struggling when the wind goes over 30knots because of the choppy waters, i am not confortable in slalom boards over 30kntos :(
Any experience and help?
Thanks
Hi MMilhazes,
Hope you had a good season down under. I am having the same issue as yourself as Isonic 87 is just to wild to handle in open chop so after lots of research have gone and got a Fox 95 although nit used as yet in chop but was really impressed with the speed on flat water in Bonnaire this year. I am about 80 kg and use OD M1s 8.6 -7.0 and for high winds use 6.2 but due to ease in waterstarting I have gone NCX (no cams) until I get more competent on no cam sails. How did you get the Fox 95 and if so what fins and sail sizes have you used?
Select to expand quotespridget said..
ive got me a 95 for a while, used it only with ka race 6.3 and 7.1 and i love it when the water is rough. The only thing that i have to get used to is the smaller tail which gives less lift then slalomboards, so underpowered i even used a new carbon model select s1 pro 35 , 35knots 2sec was very easy and was not even fully powered up. Got a s1 high wind 33 for the 6.3, also nice. A shame i cant compare my z-fin and f-hot fins on the fox ;-(
Spridget,
I am the same a MMilhazes but mainly use Fox 95 for 5.0 - 6.2 (NCX and OD) so can I ask if you have sued 5.0 - 6.0 sails and if so what fins work best in open choppy seas. I am 80 kgs and found ISonic 87 jsy to wild for my vintage age and skill in high winds hence fox.
Cheers
Select to expand quoteMartinJerrard said..spridget said..
ive got me a 95 for a while, used it only with ka race 6.3 and 7.1 and i love it when the water is rough. The only thing that i have to get used to is the smaller tail which gives less lift then slalomboards, so underpowered i even used a new carbon model select s1 pro 35 , 35knots 2sec was very easy and was not even fully powered up. Got a s1 high wind 33 for the 6.3, also nice. A shame i cant compare my z-fin and f-hot fins on the fox ;-(
Spridget,
I am the same a MMilhazes but mainly use Fox 95 for 5.0 - 6.2 (NCX and OD) so can I ask if you have sued 5.0 - 6.0 sails and if so what fins work best in open choppy seas. I am 80 kgs and found ISonic 87 jsy to wild for my vintage age and skill in high winds hence fox.
Cheers
Hi Martin Jerrard,
do you use a NCX 5.0 on the Fox? Is it performing well? Which year is the sail? I am about to buy a NCX 5.0 2018 for a good price. Would use it on my fox105 for 24-28kn of wind and would be keen to hear your comment on performance but also how it handles chop and gusty conditions.
best regards
mariachi76
Select to expand quotemariachi76 said..MartinJerrard said..spridget said..
ive got me a 95 for a while, used it only with ka race 6.3 and 7.1 and i love it when the water is rough. The only thing that i have to get used to is the smaller tail which gives less lift then slalomboards, so underpowered i even used a new carbon model select s1 pro 35 , 35knots 2sec was very easy and was not even fully powered up. Got a s1 high wind 33 for the 6.3, also nice. A shame i cant compare my z-fin and f-hot fins on the fox ;-(
Spridget,
I am the same a MMilhazes but mainly use Fox 95 for 5.0 - 6.2 (NCX and OD) so can I ask if you have sued 5.0 - 6.0 sails and if so what fins work best in open choppy seas. I am 80 kgs and found ISonic 87 jsy to wild for my vintage age and skill in high winds hence fox.
Cheers
Hi Martin Jerrard,
do you use a NCX 5.0 on the Fox? Is it performing well? Which year is the sail? I am about to buy a NCX 5.0 2018 for a good price. Would use it on my fox105 for 24-28kn of wind and would be keen to hear your comment on performance but also how it handles chop and gusty conditions.
best regards
mariachi76
Mariachi, a small sail on a large slalomish oriented board does not work too well. Balance is off, the board become unstable and especially the front acquires a tendency to come up. You need some power to keep the lift generated by the board down. You are better off learning how to handle your biggest sail in strong wind. I am 72 Kg and I am comfortable with 6.5/6.6 race/freerace sails when people are out Freestyling or freestylewaving with 4.7 sails. On my Patrik Slalom 100 the biggest sail I ever used was a 5.8, with my Isonic 111 I go down to 6.5, but it is much happier with a 7.3.
And 24-28 knots of wind is a real lot, if those are real readings it is not really a place for a 105 liter board ... those are river Gorge conditions.
Select to expand quoteduzzi said..mariachi76 said..MartinJerrard said..spridget said..
ive got me a 95 for a while, used it only with ka race 6.3 and 7.1 and i love it when the water is rough. The only thing that i have to get used to is the smaller tail which gives less lift then slalomboards, so underpowered i even used a new carbon model select s1 pro 35 , 35knots 2sec was very easy and was not even fully powered up. Got a s1 high wind 33 for the 6.3, also nice. A shame i cant compare my z-fin and f-hot fins on the fox ;-(
Spridget,
I am the same a MMilhazes but mainly use Fox 95 for 5.0 - 6.2 (NCX and OD) so can I ask if you have sued 5.0 - 6.0 sails and if so what fins work best in open choppy seas. I am 80 kgs and found ISonic 87 jsy to wild for my vintage age and skill in high winds hence fox.
Cheers
Hi Martin Jerrard,
do you use a NCX 5.0 on the Fox? Is it performing well? Which year is the sail? I am about to buy a NCX 5.0 2018 for a good price. Would use it on my fox105 for 24-28kn of wind and would be keen to hear your comment on performance but also how it handles chop and gusty conditions.
best regards
mariachi76
Mariachi, a small sail on a large slalomish oriented board does not work too well. Balance is off, the board become unstable and especially the front acquires a tendency to come up. You need some power to keep the lift generated by the board down. You are better off learning how to handle your biggest sail in strong wind. I am 72 Kg and I am comfortable with 6.5/6.6 race/freerace sails when people are out Freestyling or freestylewaving with 4.7 sails. On my Patrik Slalom 100 the biggest sail I ever used was a 5.8, with my Isonic 111 I go down to 6.5, but it is much happier with a 7.3.
And 24-28 knots of wind is a real lot, if those are real readings it is not really a place for a 105 liter board ... those are river Gorge conditions.
Hello,
As to my understanding of windsurf mechanics, a sail inclined towards the wind also creates a lift force, and a larger sail creates a larger lift force.
i think that our body weight keeps the board down. Am I wrong here?
best regards
mariachi76
Select to expand quotemariachi76 said..duzzi said..mariachi76 said..MartinJerrard said..spridget said..
ive got me a 95 for a while, used it only with ka race 6.3 and 7.1 and i love it when the water is rough. The only thing that i have to get used to is the smaller tail which gives less lift then slalomboards, so underpowered i even used a new carbon model select s1 pro 35 , 35knots 2sec was very easy and was not even fully powered up. Got a s1 high wind 33 for the 6.3, also nice. A shame i cant compare my z-fin and f-hot fins on the fox ;-(
Spridget,
I am the same a MMilhazes but mainly use Fox 95 for 5.0 - 6.2 (NCX and OD) so can I ask if you have sued 5.0 - 6.0 sails and if so what fins work best in open choppy seas. I am 80 kgs and found ISonic 87 jsy to wild for my vintage age and skill in high winds hence fox.
Cheers
Hi Martin Jerrard,
do you use a NCX 5.0 on the Fox? Is it performing well? Which year is the sail? I am about to buy a NCX 5.0 2018 for a good price. Would use it on my fox105 for 24-28kn of wind and would be keen to hear your comment on performance but also how it handles chop and gusty conditions.
best regards
mariachi76
Mariachi, a small sail on a large slalomish oriented board does not work too well. Balance is off, the board become unstable and especially the front acquires a tendency to come up. You need some power to keep the lift generated by the board down. You are better off learning how to handle your biggest sail in strong wind. I am 72 Kg and I am comfortable with 6.5/6.6 race/freerace sails when people are out Freestyling or freestylewaving with 4.7 sails. On my Patrik Slalom 100 the biggest sail I ever used was a 5.8, with my Isonic 111 I go down to 6.5, but it is much happier with a 7.3.
And 24-28 knots of wind is a real lot, if those are real readings it is not really a place for a 105 liter board ... those are river Gorge conditions.
Hello,
As to my understanding of windsurf mechanics, a sail inclined towards the wind also creates a lift force, and a larger sail creates a larger lift force.
i think that our body weight keeps the board down. Am I wrong here?
best regards
mariachi76
Yes
Select to expand quotegorgesailor said..mariachi76 said..duzzi said..mariachi76 said..MartinJerrard said..spridget said..
ive got me a 95 for a while, used it only with ka race 6.3 and 7.1 and i love it when the water is rough. The only thing that i have to get used to is the smaller tail which gives less lift then slalomboards, so underpowered i even used a new carbon model select s1 pro 35 , 35knots 2sec was very easy and was not even fully powered up. Got a s1 high wind 33 for the 6.3, also nice. A shame i cant compare my z-fin and f-hot fins on the fox ;-(
Spridget,
I am the same a MMilhazes but mainly use Fox 95 for 5.0 - 6.2 (NCX and OD) so can I ask if you have sued 5.0 - 6.0 sails and if so what fins work best in open choppy seas. I am 80 kgs and found ISonic 87 jsy to wild for my vintage age and skill in high winds hence fox.
Cheers
Hi Martin Jerrard,
do you use a NCX 5.0 on the Fox? Is it performing well? Which year is the sail? I am about to buy a NCX 5.0 2018 for a good price. Would use it on my fox105 for 24-28kn of wind and would be keen to hear your comment on performance but also how it handles chop and gusty conditions.
best regards
mariachi76
Mariachi, a small sail on a large slalomish oriented board does not work too well. Balance is off, the board become unstable and especially the front acquires a tendency to come up. You need some power to keep the lift generated by the board down. You are better off learning how to handle your biggest sail in strong wind. I am 72 Kg and I am comfortable with 6.5/6.6 race/freerace sails when people are out Freestyling or freestylewaving with 4.7 sails. On my Patrik Slalom 100 the biggest sail I ever used was a 5.8, with my Isonic 111 I go down to 6.5, but it is much happier with a 7.3.
And 24-28 knots of wind is a real lot, if those are real readings it is not really a place for a 105 liter board ... those are river Gorge conditions.
Hello,
As to my understanding of windsurf mechanics, a sail inclined towards the wind also creates a lift force, and a larger sail creates a larger lift force.
i think that our body weight keeps the board down. Am I wrong here?
best regards
mariachi76
Yes
Yes what?
Select to expand quotemariachi76 said..duzzi said..mariachi76 said..MartinJerrard said..spridget said..
ive got me a 95 for a while, used it only with ka race 6.3 and 7.1 and i love it when the water is rough. The only thing that i have to get used to is the smaller tail which gives less lift then slalomboards, so underpowered i even used a new carbon model select s1 pro 35 , 35knots 2sec was very easy and was not even fully powered up. Got a s1 high wind 33 for the 6.3, also nice. A shame i cant compare my z-fin and f-hot fins on the fox ;-(
Spridget,
I am the same a MMilhazes but mainly use Fox 95 for 5.0 - 6.2 (NCX and OD) so can I ask if you have sued 5.0 - 6.0 sails and if so what fins work best in open choppy seas. I am 80 kgs and found ISonic 87 jsy to wild for my vintage age and skill in high winds hence fox.
Cheers
Hi Martin Jerrard,
do you use a NCX 5.0 on the Fox? Is it performing well? Which year is the sail? I am about to buy a NCX 5.0 2018 for a good price. Would use it on my fox105 for 24-28kn of wind and would be keen to hear your comment on performance but also how it handles chop and gusty conditions.
best regards
mariachi76
Mariachi, a small sail on a large slalomish oriented board does not work too well. Balance is off, the board become unstable and especially the front acquires a tendency to come up. You need some power to keep the lift generated by the board down. You are better off learning how to handle your biggest sail in strong wind. I am 72 Kg and I am comfortable with 6.5/6.6 race/freerace sails when people are out Freestyling or freestylewaving with 4.7 sails. On my Patrik Slalom 100 the biggest sail I ever used was a 5.8, with my Isonic 111 I go down to 6.5, but it is much happier with a 7.3.
And 24-28 knots of wind is a real lot, if those are real readings it is not really a place for a 105 liter board ... those are river Gorge conditions.
Hello,
As to my understanding of windsurf mechanics, a sail inclined towards the wind also creates a lift force, and a larger sail creates a larger lift force.
i think that our body weight keeps the board down. Am I wrong here?
best regards
mariachi76
The loads on slalom equipment are different to wave gear.
wave gear you tend to get a lot more upright stance/open sail which means theres more front foot pressure. slalom your feet are out on the rail and the sail more closed, which results in more back foot pressure and less front foot pressure. You end up twisting your front foot to keep it in the strap sometimes.
The down force that keeps the nose down comes from the rig. Both its weight and the leverage from the wind hitting the top of the sail. Its Part of why getting downhaul/mast foot position right is so critical. too little downhaul/mast too forward and theres too much board in the water and the nose wants to bury of every wave. Too much downhaul/mast foot back and the nose wants to fly.
sorry, that was a really round about way to tell you you're wrong. 
Theres more down force translated from the rig than there is up force. Small sail =less downforce which can be critical for a flighty slalom board.
Select to expand quoteSubsonic said..mariachi76 said..duzzi said..mariachi76 said..MartinJerrard said..spridget said..
ive got me a 95 for a while, used it only with ka race 6.3 and 7.1 and i love it when the water is rough. The only thing that i have to get used to is the smaller tail which gives less lift then slalomboards, so underpowered i even used a new carbon model select s1 pro 35 , 35knots 2sec was very easy and was not even fully powered up. Got a s1 high wind 33 for the 6.3, also nice. A shame i cant compare my z-fin and f-hot fins on the fox ;-(
Spridget,
I am the same a MMilhazes but mainly use Fox 95 for 5.0 - 6.2 (NCX and OD) so can I ask if you have sued 5.0 - 6.0 sails and if so what fins work best in open choppy seas. I am 80 kgs and found ISonic 87 jsy to wild for my vintage age and skill in high winds hence fox.
Cheers
Hi Martin Jerrard,
do you use a NCX 5.0 on the Fox? Is it performing well? Which year is the sail? I am about to buy a NCX 5.0 2018 for a good price. Would use it on my fox105 for 24-28kn of wind and would be keen to hear your comment on performance but also how it handles chop and gusty conditions.
best regards
mariachi76
Mariachi, a small sail on a large slalomish oriented board does not work too well. Balance is off, the board become unstable and especially the front acquires a tendency to come up. You need some power to keep the lift generated by the board down. You are better off learning how to handle your biggest sail in strong wind. I am 72 Kg and I am comfortable with 6.5/6.6 race/freerace sails when people are out Freestyling or freestylewaving with 4.7 sails. On my Patrik Slalom 100 the biggest sail I ever used was a 5.8, with my Isonic 111 I go down to 6.5, but it is much happier with a 7.3.
And 24-28 knots of wind is a real lot, if those are real readings it is not really a place for a 105 liter board ... those are river Gorge conditions.
Hello,
As to my understanding of windsurf mechanics, a sail inclined towards the wind also creates a lift force, and a larger sail creates a larger lift force.
i think that our body weight keeps the board down. Am I wrong here?
best regards
mariachi76
The loads on slalom equipment are different to wave gear.
wave gear you tend to get a lot more upright stance/open sail which means theres more front foot pressure. slalom your feet are out on the rail and the sail more closed, which results in more back foot pressure and less front foot pressure. You end up twisting your front foot to keep it in the strap sometimes.
The down force that keeps the nose down comes from the rig. Both its weight and the leverage from the wind hitting the top of the sail. Its Part of why getting downhaul/mast foot position right is so critical. too little downhaul/mast too forward and theres too much board in the water and the nose wants to bury of every wave. Too much downhaul/mast foot back and the nose wants to fly.
sorry, that was a really round about way to tell you you're wrong.
Theres more down force translated from the rig than there is up force. Small sail =less downforce which can be critical for a flighty slalom board.
Thanks for the explanation, makes sense. But back to the original question of a 5.0 NCX sail on the Fox 105L, can't I just put the mast foot some cm more to the front to keep the nose down? Or does a 5.0 really not work well on the Fox 105?
best regards
mariachi76
Not having sailed a Fox 105, I would still bet it works with a 5,0 NCX based on my experience with boards and sails in a similar size (only yesterday I sailed a 105 Rocket and a 5,0 wave sail as in German winter I don't rally want to swim in the lulls which I wouldn't be able to avoid on my RRD FSW 90 ).
Don't overdo on downhaul and outhaul, mast a little forward, boom low, harness lines longer (if they're in the right position, you needn't have your arms as far apart as you seem to have in the picture, so you won't feel they're too short for long lines) and it'll be easily controlled. If that isn't enough, reduce fin size by about 2 cm and you'll be fine.
If you can get the NCX for a reasonable price, go for it and try yourself!
Cheers,
Sven
Select to expand quotemariachi76 said..Subsonic said..mariachi76 said..duzzi said..mariachi76 said..MartinJerrard said..spridget said..
ive got me a 95 for a while, used it only with ka race 6.3 and 7.1 and i love it when the water is rough. The only thing that i have to get used to is the smaller tail which gives less lift then slalomboards, so underpowered i even used a new carbon model select s1 pro 35 , 35knots 2sec was very easy and was not even fully powered up. Got a s1 high wind 33 for the 6.3, also nice. A shame i cant compare my z-fin and f-hot fins on the fox ;-(
Spridget,
I am the same a MMilhazes but mainly use Fox 95 for 5.0 - 6.2 (NCX and OD) so can I ask if you have sued 5.0 - 6.0 sails and if so what fins work best in open choppy seas. I am 80 kgs and found ISonic 87 jsy to wild for my vintage age and skill in high winds hence fox.
Cheers
Hi Martin Jerrard,
do you use a NCX 5.0 on the Fox? Is it performing well? Which year is the sail? I am about to buy a NCX 5.0 2018 for a good price. Would use it on my fox105 for 24-28kn of wind and would be keen to hear your comment on performance but also how it handles chop and gusty conditions.
best regards
mariachi76
Mariachi, a small sail on a large slalomish oriented board does not work too well. Balance is off, the board become unstable and especially the front acquires a tendency to come up. You need some power to keep the lift generated by the board down. You are better off learning how to handle your biggest sail in strong wind. I am 72 Kg and I am comfortable with 6.5/6.6 race/freerace sails when people are out Freestyling or freestylewaving with 4.7 sails. On my Patrik Slalom 100 the biggest sail I ever used was a 5.8, with my Isonic 111 I go down to 6.5, but it is much happier with a 7.3.
And 24-28 knots of wind is a real lot, if those are real readings it is not really a place for a 105 liter board ... those are river Gorge conditions.
Hello,
As to my understanding of windsurf mechanics, a sail inclined towards the wind also creates a lift force, and a larger sail creates a larger lift force.
i think that our body weight keeps the board down. Am I wrong here?
best regards
mariachi76
The loads on slalom equipment are different to wave gear.
wave gear you tend to get a lot more upright stance/open sail which means theres more front foot pressure. slalom your feet are out on the rail and the sail more closed, which results in more back foot pressure and less front foot pressure. You end up twisting your front foot to keep it in the strap sometimes.
The down force that keeps the nose down comes from the rig. Both its weight and the leverage from the wind hitting the top of the sail. Its Part of why getting downhaul/mast foot position right is so critical. too little downhaul/mast too forward and theres too much board in the water and the nose wants to bury of every wave. Too much downhaul/mast foot back and the nose wants to fly.
sorry, that was a really round about way to tell you you're wrong.
Theres more down force translated from the rig than there is up force. Small sail =less downforce which can be critical for a flighty slalom board.
Thanks for the explanation, makes sense. But back to the original question of a 5.0 NCX sail on the Fox 105L, can't I just put the mast foot some cm more to the front to keep the nose down? Or does a 5.0 really not work well on the Fox 105?
best regards
mariachi76
You do not really use a freerace/race sail in the same way you use a freestyl/wave sail. A freerace/race sail is supposed to be used powered to overpowered and as long as you keep the correct asset it just spills the extra wind and drives you forward. If you do not, then it is a problem because you are suddenly with two extra square meters than you need.
At 72 Kg, VERY VERY far from pro level sailor, I can use my 6.5/6.6 Point-7 ACX/HSM GPS 6.6 when people heavier by 10-20 Kg are on 4.3-4.7. I go down to 5.8 when I see wind conditions where I would use a powered/overpowered 4.7 on my B&J. I never owned anything smaller than a 5.5 race sail, a HSM GPS (3 cams) that I used with my Carbon Art 52 cm wide.
Your Fox 105 at 65 cm wide might work with a 5.0. Actually it will, it will also "work" with a 4.5, but it is a big slalomi-sh board (Severne recommends a sail range of 6.0-7.8) and I doubt it would behave any better with a smaller sail if you are sailing in really maxed out conditions.
Thanks Zeegerman and duzzi,
I also contacted Severne and they think the NCX 5.0 will work fine too on the Fox 105. They also suggested a 32cm fin (which I already have), and I also think with putting the mast to the front and long harness lines it should work.
I know race sails should be used more overpowered, but have for that Board only a 7.0 Overdrive and now the 5.0 NCX . All other sails in the sail range of the Fox 105 are Gators (5.5 and 6.5) for freeriding only.
@zeegerman The pic in my avatar was just some fractions of seconds before I started a jibe (see close shore), so that is not representative for my sailing style. I have my hands normally close that I can reach the harness lines with the thumbs, and front leg more strechted and body twisted forward.
best regards
Rainer
