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Oda Johanne video

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Created by thedoor > 9 months ago, 31 May 2022
thedoor
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31 May 2022 7:14PM
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azymuth
WA, 1962 posts
3 Jun 2022 7:36AM
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thedoor said..


Super vid, inspiring - awesome production

aeroegnr
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3 Jun 2022 7:57AM
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Yes, very good. I didn't know she had hurt her foot. Very good to see recoveries from injuries like that.

Haircut
QLD, 6480 posts
10 Jun 2022 12:38AM
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wow, she seems to have the strength/power that could compete with the blokes which has been pretty rare in windsurfing

thedoor
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18 Jun 2022 11:51PM
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aeroegnr
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22 Jun 2022 12:38AM
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I'm going to ask the dumb question here:

She's definitely not got the sail all the way to close the gap. I've noticed that I do the same on the Freeks. I'm thinking this is due to the cut of those sails and the type of board? I think I'm answering my own question due to how sharp the foot of the Freeks are vs. the longer cut below the boom on Cheetahs/Goya Marks

Haircut
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7 Jul 2022 8:10PM
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apart from the higher cut on some of the sails, she seems to also use the mast base a long way back in the track. I've always found the freestyle boards plane up earlier if the mast base is set way back which also seems to result in a more upright mast (bigger gap) and upright stance. This also allows for a lower boom which I find moves my body weight more onto front foot (helping to avoid spinout with small fins)

^ it's probably at the cost of absolute top speed, but i'd rather be planing early

aeroegnr
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7 Jul 2022 7:37PM
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Haircut said..
apart from the higher cut on some of the sails, she seems to also use the mast base a long way back in the track. I've always found the freestyle boards plane up earlier if the mast base is set way back which also seems to result in a more upright mast (bigger gap) and upright stance. This also allows for a lower boom which I find moves my body weight more onto front foot (helping to avoid spinout with small fins)

^ it's probably at the cost of absolute top speed, but i'd rather be planing early


Interesting. I'll have to experiment more with mast base position with the freeks when it's windy enough to fin again vs. foil. I have only used them significantly (with fins) on an older 120Xcite and I kept them pretty far back in the track but I could go further.

boardsurfr
WA, 2202 posts
7 Jul 2022 9:28PM
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Keep in mind that freestylers use tiny fins - 19 cm is considered big for the guys. Small fins require a more upright stance and tons of mastfoot pressure. Freestyle sails have a tighter leech and higher COE to enable that (which is also why they can work quite well for windfoiling).
Another reason to have the mast foot close to the front strap is to allow for faster rotations. The more the mast foot is back, the easier it is to rotate the board in the air.
Neither the small fin nor the fast air rotation applies to your 120Xcite, I assume . But experimenting is good - maybe there's some other benefit.

aeroegnr
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7 Jul 2022 9:55PM
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boardsurfr said..
Keep in mind that freestylers use tiny fins - 19 cm is considered big for the guys. Small fins require a more upright stance and tons of mastfoot pressure. Freestyle sails have a tighter leech and higher COE to enable that (which is also why they can work quite well for windfoiling).
Another reason to have the mast foot close to the front strap is to allow for faster rotations. The more the mast foot is back, the easier it is to rotate the board in the air.
Neither the small fin nor the fast air rotation applies to your 120Xcite, I assume . But experimenting is good - maybe there's some other benefit.


I also have a 102 FSW but that is a much longer shape than newer freestyle designs. Maybe I can get my hands on a used real freestyle board...

duzzi
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7 Jul 2022 11:44PM
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thedoor said..








I'm going to ask the dumb question here:

She's definitely not got the sail all the way to close the gap. I've noticed that I do the same on the Freeks. I'm thinking this is due to the cut of those sails and the type of board? I think I'm answering my own question due to how sharp the foot of the Freeks are vs. the longer cut below the boom on Cheetahs/Goya Marks


Yep. You cannot really close the gap with a sail like the Freak. You are missing half a meter of fabric at the bottom (And she is going, but using a Freak and an Ignite and a freestyle fin I am pretty sure takes away a lot of speed. In a spot like that, I'd love to have one around here, 32 knots, for 2", is not so fast.)




Faff
VIC, 1165 posts
8 Jul 2022 9:58PM
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boardsurfr said..
Keep in mind that freestylers use tiny fins - 19 cm is considered big for the guys. Small fins require a more upright stance and tons of mastfoot pressure. Freestyle sails have a tighter leech and higher COE to enable that (which is also why they can work quite well for windfoiling).
Another reason to have the mast foot close to the front strap is to allow for faster rotations. The more the mast foot is back, the easier it is to rotate the board in the air.
Neither the small fin nor the fast air rotation applies to your 120Xcite, I assume . But experimenting is good - maybe there's some other benefit.


The fins are getting bigger. Most are using 19-21 now.



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