Hello,
I'm looking at getting a freeride board in the 105/115L range, 63-68cm wide. Maybe either a JP Super Ride or Fanatic Blast (their specs and description are very similar).
I'm about 66kg and I hope to use this board in 12 to maybe 20 knots of wind, 14-18 would be the sweet spot. I have 5.0 and 6.5 sails to cover this range, I may try to get a 7.5 some day too, and maybe swap the 5.0 for a 5.5. The 5.0 and 18/20 knots is kind of like the hinge spot where I go from the freeride to a 85L board.
I have no idea on the light wind planing abilities of these boards. Would either the 105 or 115 likely plane in 14 knots with a 6.5? What about 12 knots?
The other factor is that boards like the Super Ride and 2020 Blast are foil ready. With a proper foil, is it likely that a beginner could learn to foil on one of these boards?
thanks
I'd think definitely a 7.5 and one size larger than standard fin even at 66 kgs
However I'm over 100 so wait for the smaller folks to chime in!!
both good boards ,I have a 115 Tabou rocket ,and i reckon you probably would plane on it with a 7,5 ,in 12 knots for sure being 66 kgs
i plane on it with a 7,0 in 15 .16 knots .@ 95 kgs .good thing about the rocket it has a 5,5 -7,5 sail range .
you have many boards to choose from and if your looking to foil ,you could probably kill two birds with one stone buying a foil ready board .
enjoy the search .
Select to expand quotemuzylab said..
Hello,
I'm looking at getting a freeride board in the 105/115L range, 63-68cm wide. Maybe either a JP Super Ride or Fanatic Blast (their specs and description are very similar).
I'm about 66kg and I hope to use this board in 12 to maybe 20 knots of wind, 14-18 would be the sweet spot. I have 5.0 and 6.5 sails to cover this range, I may try to get a 7.5 some day too, and maybe swap the 5.0 for a 5.5. The 5.0 and 18/20 knots is kind of like the hinge spot where I go from the freeride to a 85L board.
I have no idea on the light wind planing abilities of these boards. Would either the 105 or 115 likely plane in 14 knots with a 6.5? What about 12 knots?
The other factor is that boards like the Super Ride and 2020 Blast are foil ready. With a proper foil, is it likely that a beginner could learn to foil on one of these boards?
thanks
Can't say re the boards but I'm about 65kgs and use a 7.5m Severne Gt Turbo on my 111ltre slalom board . That gets me going in about 10-12kts ( if it's pretty consistent ) and I'm maxed out at 19-20kts..
I'm 98kg and get planing with 113L/69W board in about 14kts. I think there is a big difference (like 1/2m2 +) in planing ability depending on how active you are in pumping the board onto the plane
I don't have much experience, kind of a newbie but we are similar weight, so take my words with a grain of salt.
I am 65kg, using fox 105 and gator 6.5 for light days. I guess Fox is a similar board to Blast and Super Ride. I can't plane at 12kts with this setup, i am not good at pumping but even if i catch a gust, i stop planing at first lull, its not fun. 15kts is no problem.
I was olso considering a 7.5 freerace sail but then i need to buy a 460 mast and a bigger boom as well, which is too much cost for now, I rather wait for +3kts of wind.
I think at our weight, 105lt board is enough for 7.5m sail. 85lt to 115lt is a big gap, but I didn't see any foil ready boards at 105lt.
Select to expand quotemuzylab said..
Hello,
I'm looking at getting a freeride board in the 105/115L range, 63-68cm wide. Maybe either a JP Super Ride or Fanatic Blast (their specs and description are very similar).
I'm about 66kg and I hope to use this board in 12 to maybe 20 knots of wind, 14-18 would be the sweet spot. I have 5.0 and 6.5 sails to cover this range, I may try to get a 7.5 some day too, and maybe swap the 5.0 for a 5.5. The 5.0 and 18/20 knots is kind of like the hinge spot where I go from the freeride to a 85L board.
I have no idea on the light wind planing abilities of these boards. Would either the 105 or 115 likely plane in 14 knots with a 6.5? What about 12 knots?
The other factor is that boards like the Super Ride and 2020 Blast are foil ready. With a proper foil, is it likely that a beginner could learn to foil on one of these boards?
thanks
Hi, if you look for a combo which gets you planing from around 12-13kn on, I can recommend the JP Magic Ride, either 112 or even 119 for even more light wind, and a Severne Turbo GT 7.5. The magic ride is just a very easy but still fast board which planes effortless (i weigh 78kg and have a 130L board as my medium to light wind board). The Turbo GT is by far the easiest cam sail with lots of low-end punch, designed not for the high end race speed, but freeride fun with early planing and easy handling - you almost forget it is a cam sail. And it gets you perfectly through the lulls.
High recommendation, based on my own experience (just a size bigger).
best regards
mariachi76
Go the blast they are awesome, very forgiving, they feel like they are much smaller than they really are, they love the chop, every model has a huge compatible sail range, they gybe easily, get plaining quicker than just about anything else and can be up hauled very easily as the volume is packed into the right places because they are not as wide as other big volume boards . They do have a top speed slightly below 'true' slalom gear but more than make up for it by keeping you sailing far longer (gusts no drama hook in hold on, lulls no problem stand up and bog through) . I love my blasts (130L & 100L) and am learning to foil on the bigger one. (I think only the bigger ones are foil ready BTY). I tend to use a 7.5 and a 6.5 mostly in anything from 10 Knots to about 20-22Knots & Im about 10KG heavier than you so a 115L Blast with a 7 or 7.5 should have you ripping in just about anything. Do save up and get a better fin though, the fin really affects these boards they love a long straight fast fin (stock fin is ok but a compromise to help gybing).
Select to expand quotepeterowensbabs said..
Go the blast they are awesome, very forgiving, they feel like they are much smaller than they really are, they love the chop, every model has a huge compatible sail range, they gybe easily, get plaining quicker than just about anything else and can be up hauled very easily as the volume is packed into the right places because they are not as wide as other big volume boards . They do have a top speed slightly below 'true' slalom gear but more than make up for it by keeping you sailing far longer (gusts no drama hook in hold on, lulls no problem stand up and bog through) . I love my blasts (130L & 100L) and am learning to foil on the bigger one. (I think only the bigger ones are foil ready BTY). I tend to use a 7.5 and a 6.5 mostly in anything from 10 Knots to about 20-22Knots & Im about 10KG heavier than you so a 115L Blast with a 7 or 7.5 should have you ripping in just about anything. Do save up and get a better fin though, the fin really affects these boards they love a long straight fast fin (stock fin is ok but a compromise to help gybing).
Had a go on s Blast130 last week. Yes it got up and went very well. Smooth as! Handled chop and ironed out all bashing. And had a 5.5 sail pushing it. The owner loved it and I saw heaps of potential for this summer. He did 26 knots on it and very happy.
Thanks everyone. The 115L sounds good for light wind but maybe a bit too much at my weight for 20knots, but that's a big range.
The 2019 JP boards are foil ready down to 105, and the 2020 Blasts are also foil ready down to 105. I can get a 2019 JP for about $1k less than a 2020 Blast though.
Some other local sailors are suggesting to go straight to foiling for max time (and fun?) on water. Having never foiled, that seems pretty risky to me for spending $$.
Select to expand quoteBSN101 said..peterowensbabs said..
Go the blast they are awesome, very forgiving, they feel like they are much smaller than they really are, they love the chop, every model has a huge compatible sail range, they gybe easily, get plaining quicker than just about anything else and can be up hauled very easily as the volume is packed into the right places because they are not as wide as other big volume boards . They do have a top speed slightly below 'true' slalom gear but more than make up for it by keeping you sailing far longer (gusts no drama hook in hold on, lulls no problem stand up and bog through) . I love my blasts (130L & 100L) and am learning to foil on the bigger one. (I think only the bigger ones are foil ready BTY). I tend to use a 7.5 and a 6.5 mostly in anything from 10 Knots to about 20-22Knots & Im about 10KG heavier than you so a 115L Blast with a 7 or 7.5 should have you ripping in just about anything. Do save up and get a better fin though, the fin really affects these boards they love a long straight fast fin (stock fin is ok but a compromise to help gybing).
Had a go on s Blast130 last week. Yes it got up and went very well. Smooth as! Handled chop and ironed out all bashing. And had a 5.5 sail pushing it. The owner loved it and I saw heaps of potential for this summer. He did 26 knots on it and very happy.
PB Max 2s 34 knots on my 130L so not a total slug!
Select to expand quotemuzylab said..
Thanks everyone. The 115L sounds good for light wind but maybe a bit too much at my weight for 20knots, but that's a big range.
The 2019 JP boards are foil ready down to 105, and the 2020 Blasts are also foil ready down to 105. I can get a 2019 JP for about $1k less than a 2020 Blast though.
Some other local sailors are suggesting to go straight to foiling for max time (and fun?) on water. Having never foiled, that seems pretty risky to me for spending $$.
Sure but if you get the H4 fanatic deep tuttle entry level foil to match the board as opposed to a $2000 foil your still neutral! The H$ is in expensive and maybe even cheeper secondhand, mount void any warrantee and works very well with the blast or gecko.
Select to expand quotepeterowensbabs said..BSN101 said..peterowensbabs said..
Go the blast they are awesome, very forgiving, they feel like they are much smaller than they really are, they love the chop, every model has a huge compatible sail range, they gybe easily, get plaining quicker than just about anything else and can be up hauled very easily as the volume is packed into the right places because they are not as wide as other big volume boards . They do have a top speed slightly below 'true' slalom gear but more than make up for it by keeping you sailing far longer (gusts no drama hook in hold on, lulls no problem stand up and bog through) . I love my blasts (130L & 100L) and am learning to foil on the bigger one. (I think only the bigger ones are foil ready BTY). I tend to use a 7.5 and a 6.5 mostly in anything from 10 Knots to about 20-22Knots & Im about 10KG heavier than you so a 115L Blast with a 7 or 7.5 should have you ripping in just about anything. Do save up and get a better fin though, the fin really affects these boards they love a long straight fast fin (stock fin is ok but a compromise to help gybing).
Had a go on s Blast130 last week. Yes it got up and went very well. Smooth as! Handled chop and ironed out all bashing. And had a 5.5 sail pushing it. The owner loved it and I saw heaps of potential for this summer. He did 26 knots on it and very happy.
PB Max 2s 34 knots on my 130L so not a total slug!
Hot speed there! What sail & fin sizes?
Select to expand quotemuzylab said..
Some other local sailors are suggesting to go straight to foiling for max time (and fun?) on water. Having never foiled, that seems pretty risky to me for spending $$.
There is a chance you would not like foiling. Lots of windsurfers who try get hooked on it, but some do not.
When looking at the $$, you got to compare the foil with the cost of getting a bigger rig. Around here, decent foils cost around $1250 US, which is more than a new sail at $800. But if you need to also get a new mast and new boom, the larger sail will be more expensive. On the other hand, if you buy a board to go with your foil, the foil gets more expensive again.
If you try foiling at some point in the future, there's a very good chance that your large sails will remain unused (except perhaps if you try to push the light-wind limits of foiling). In previous summers, I frequently used my 7.8 and 8.5 in 12-15 knots. This summer, it's been 5.6 and 6.5 on the foil instead is the same wind. The same is true for others. On lighter days, there are now mostly foils on the water, with big gear becoming an exception.
If you have a chance, you may want to try foiling before you buy your new board. A couple of sessions in decent conditions should give you an idea what it's all about. But keep in mind that many windsurfers need 5 or more sessions to reach the point where they start getting comfortable on the foil.
If you end up foiling at some point in the future, a bigger board (e.g. a 115 instead of a 105) with more width can make things easier.
Select to expand quoteboardsurfr said..muzylab said..
Some other local sailors are suggesting to go straight to foiling for max time (and fun?) on water. Having never foiled, that seems pretty risky to me for spending $$.
There is a chance you would not like foiling. Lots of windsurfers who try get hooked on it, but some do not.
When looking at the $$, you got to compare the foil with the cost of getting a bigger rig. Around here, decent foils cost around $1250 US, which is more than a new sail at $800. But if you need to also get a new mast and new boom, the larger sail will be more expensive. On the other hand, if you buy a board to go with your foil, the foil gets more expensive again.
If you try foiling at some point in the future, there's a very good chance that your large sails will remain unused (except perhaps if you try to push the light-wind limits of foiling). In previous summers, I frequently used my 7.8 and 8.5 in 12-15 knots. This summer, it's been 5.6 and 6.5 on the foil instead is the same wind. The same is true for others. On lighter days, there are now mostly foils on the water, with big gear becoming an exception.
If you have a chance, you may want to try foiling before you buy your new board. A couple of sessions in decent conditions should give you an idea what it's all about. But keep in mind that many windsurfers need 5 or more sessions to reach the point where they start getting comfortable on the foil.
If you end up foiling at some point in the future, a bigger board (e.g. a 115 instead of a 105) with more width can make things easier.
Thanks. I think the smart move is to get a 115L which sounds like I can enjoy in 14-18kn with my current 6.5 sail. From there maybe I can get a foil someday, or at least try it.
I am 65 kg and I have a Fanatic Blast 130 as the biggest board in my qiver. I can plane on it with a 7.8 sail. The only thing is that when the wind starts to blow more than 18 knots it becomes uncomfortable for me in the sea conditions - feels too heavy in this volume.
Never tried 115 so can't tell anything about it.
