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2021 Moses stuff

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Created by PatK > 9 months ago, 1 Dec 2020
PatK
296 posts
1 Dec 2020 7:38PM
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Found this on insta
www.instagram.com/p/CINrWzNjE59/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link


utcminusfour
630 posts
1 Dec 2020 9:32PM
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Frothing for that!

PatK
296 posts
20 Feb 2021 3:24AM
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Ensis (pump/winging/kite/wind)wings made by Moses/SAB. There are 1500/1700/2000/2400 sizes,
Picture with kind permission of Davor Saric

Faff
VIC, 1169 posts
20 Feb 2021 10:51AM
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Looks like high aspect wings are taking over.

allesad
62 posts
21 Feb 2021 12:44AM
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Does the Ensis Foil 2400 fit a Moses Fuse?

Paducah
2462 posts
21 Feb 2021 1:28AM
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Faff said..
Looks like high aspect wings are taking over.


Judging from the new NP Glide, Supercruiser and Axis wings, yes.

PatK
296 posts
21 Feb 2021 5:40AM
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allesad said..
Does the Ensis Foil 2400 fit a Moses Fuse?


As i have seen at facebook groups: yes. But they modify to 8mm screws

swoosh
QLD, 1922 posts
21 Feb 2021 9:18AM
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Confused by their website.

What foil is this? www.instagram.com/p/CLe1yDMlJNq/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

dejavu
812 posts
21 Feb 2021 7:31AM
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swoosh said..
Confused by their website.

What foil is this? www.instagram.com/p/CLe1yDMlJNq/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link



It might be the Moses (Balz Muller) 720.

www.sailworks.com/moses-720-front-wing-for-windfoil.html

Faff
VIC, 1169 posts
21 Feb 2021 5:33PM
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Paducah said..

Faff said..
Looks like high aspect wings are taking over.



Judging from the new NP Glide, Supercruiser and Axis wings, yes.


Well Starboard says the Supercruiser is low aspect (and I have to agree).

Grantmac
1955 posts
21 Feb 2021 2:48PM
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The Supercruiser 1700 is almost identical to the Infinity 76cm in terms of aspect ratio, but a bit thinner so perhaps slightly more efficient.

Its definitely low aspect but they have newer wings coming that will be more like a mid AR around 5:1 I'm guessing.

PatK
296 posts
9 Apr 2021 11:07PM
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Finally got my 950 and it is great
I learned jibing on the 790, but the 950 is more stable and faster. But still able to carve. Also got the foilglide 6 the first time on the water, its so light and handy, fantastic.




dejavu
812 posts
9 Apr 2021 11:56PM
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dejavu said..



swoosh said..
Confused by their website.

What foil is this? www.instagram.com/p/CLe1yDMlJNq/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link






It might be the Moses (Balz Muller) 720.

www.sailworks.com/moses-720-front-wing-for-windfoil.html




Actually it's the Sab (Moses) foil W799 not the 720 -- brand new I would guess.

Samkyo
84 posts
15 Apr 2021 10:21PM
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Hello,

I look at Moses/SAB for more performante wing + carbon mast as my HG. Did some one try the W1000?
As I am also doing some winging do you know if the windfoil mast is compatible with the wing fuse?
tks

Siksvan
45 posts
15 Apr 2021 10:55PM
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Samkyo said..
Hello,

I look at Moses/SAB for more performante wing + carbon mast as my HG. Did some one try the W1000?
As I am also doing some winging do you know if the windfoil mast is compatible with the wing fuse?
tks


I have W1000 and W800. They are quite racy stuff. As far as I know they only fit race fuselage and FK647 which should be OK for winging and is also compatible with mast with two bolt fuselage connection.

I haven't try those wings for winging as I only have long race fuselage which moves front wing to much forward. But I should get shorter front piece to my fuselage next week. Then I'll, give it a try. I already have DT to plate adaptor and also Tabou Magic Carpet which has both boxes.

Samkyo
84 posts
15 Apr 2021 11:39PM
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Hello Siksvan,
thank you for the information I am thinking to use the fuselage FW1010 on my falcon 148 and a shorter version for the magic carpet and also I think at a pocket air to replace my wizard 105.
I see this video about using the W1000 for winging


any feedback on your test would be great tks

sunsetsailboards
442 posts
16 Apr 2021 11:46AM
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Samkyo said..
Hello,

I look at Moses/SAB for more performante wing + carbon mast as my HG. Did some one try the W1000?
As I am also doing some winging do you know if the windfoil mast is compatible with the wing fuse?
tks


I use the W1000 for winging. It's really fun, performance oriented wing. Speed, glide, and response. I use it w/ the kite fuse 647mm and S400 tail wing and a Project Cedrus 90cm mast. I also have the 82cm Moses Surf mast, but I prefer the stiffness, length, and weight of the PC mast.

Moses/SAB does not have a specific wing fuse (yet). The one they use for winging is the surf fuse 710mm. The W1000 is not compatible with this fuse, hence the usage of the kite 647mm fuse. The windfoil mast is not compatible with Surf or Kite fuselages (smaller foot).

I also detuned my W1000 before use. You can see what performance looks like before the detune:

t36
100 posts
16 Apr 2021 3:10PM
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Sabfoil/Moses does have a new Fuse - the 700H, which is very suitable for Winging (especially if you want to jump). It uses the new M1150 and M1100 wings with now M8 screws instead of M6 holes as the the 2020 W1100 wing.

I have the W1100 and the W1000 wing - W1000 is the race wing for Windfoiling (it's fast and wunderful for foiljibes / and therefore you have not to detune it).
W1100 is a wunderful wing for winging.

horey69
QLD, 496 posts
16 Apr 2021 7:56PM
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Samkyo said..
Hello,

I look at Moses/SAB for more performante wing + carbon mast as my HG. Did some one try the W1000?
As I am also doing some winging do you know if the windfoil mast is compatible with the wing fuse?
tks


Look out for the new slingshot Phantasm drop. You could keep your HG mast buy the HG - Phantasm fuse adaptor, then choose a lower package that suits ( lower is the wing, fuse & stab).
Or you could go Phantasm wide body Aluminium mast ( if you don't want the expense of carbon) adaptor, top plate. They are coming in 103w and 87w.
Dealers are about to get hype sheets and order forms on Monday the 19th.

Hit em up there's some cool stuff coming from Slingshot. And as a bonus the Moses wings will fit the SS Phantasm fuse.
Plenty to think about.



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