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Takuma Kujira

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Created by Filow > 9 months ago, 16 Sep 2020
Alysum
NSW, 980 posts
28 Oct 2022 12:52PM
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The KD stab is way too expensive for us in AU.

I am more interested in this 3 Unifoil 13" pack. Has anyone tried them?

uni-foil.com/products/tail-wing-3-pack?variant=43080025243866

Hdip
321 posts
28 Oct 2022 2:15PM
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Alysum said..
The KD stab is way too expensive for us in AU.

I am more interested in this 3 Unifoil 13" pack. Has anyone tried them?

uni-foil.com/products/tail-wing-3-pack?variant=43080025243866


I know guys on Unifoil here in Los Angeles that use them and like them. If you're in AU though check out Crisp tails. They're what Oskar used on his world record in the surf marathon. www.instagram.com/crisp_og/

Hwy1North
78 posts
5 Nov 2022 7:57AM
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Alysum said..
I tried the 1440 on my SIC Mako board and unfortunately the tracks aren't forward enough
I need more front foot pressure, my toes touch the inserts of the back of forward straps.

I tried a 1deg plate shim but my friend said the board was too nose up.

I guess I should try shim the 178 stab next? Any advice?


I find the 1440 also needs to be ridden a bit more forward than the 1095, which likes to be ridden somewhat forward... the biggest change for me is shiming the stab differently. I usually add a bit of lift on the rear screw of the stab for the 1095, and either flat or a bit of lift on the front screw for the 1440. Set up the same, the 1440 has a tendency to nose dive, or not provide enough front foot pressure.
Looking at the Mako on the web site, it looks to have a lot of tail rocker, so I'd suggest shimming the rear of the base plate until the board feels right and the foil turns well, then mess around with different brand stabilizers. BTW, I use the 1440 winging with an Onofoil 15" and it feels great!

Alysum
NSW, 980 posts
5 Nov 2022 9:55PM
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Hwy1North said..

Alysum said..
I tried the 1440 on my SIC Mako board and unfortunately the tracks aren't forward enough
I need more front foot pressure, my toes touch the inserts of the back of forward straps.

I tried a 1deg plate shim but my friend said the board was too nose up.

I guess I should try shim the 178 stab next? Any advice?



I find the 1440 also needs to be ridden a bit more forward than the 1095, which likes to be ridden somewhat forward... the biggest change for me is shiming the stab differently. I usually add a bit of lift on the rear screw of the stab for the 1095, and either flat or a bit of lift on the front screw for the 1440. Set up the same, the 1440 has a tendency to nose dive, or not provide enough front foot pressure.
Looking at the Mako on the web site, it looks to have a lot of tail rocker, so I'd suggest shimming the rear of the base plate until the board feels right and the foil turns well, then mess around with different brand stabilizers. BTW, I use the 1440 winging with an Onofoil 15" and it feels great!


I actually tried a 0.8 and 1deg plate shim on the SIC - neither really helped.

Then I went winging again with the 1440 on a different board - One 5"0 and same issue - not enough front foot pressure and too far back from strap inserts. Even tried shimming the stab under the forward hole, made no difference. Bit of a mystery this 1440....

toppleover
QLD, 2025 posts
5 Nov 2022 9:20PM
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Alysum said..

Hwy1North said..


Alysum said..
I tried the 1440 on my SIC Mako board and unfortunately the tracks aren't forward enough
I need more front foot pressure, my toes touch the inserts of the back of forward straps.

I tried a 1deg plate shim but my friend said the board was too nose up.

I guess I should try shim the 178 stab next? Any advice?




I find the 1440 also needs to be ridden a bit more forward than the 1095, which likes to be ridden somewhat forward... the biggest change for me is shiming the stab differently. I usually add a bit of lift on the rear screw of the stab for the 1095, and either flat or a bit of lift on the front screw for the 1440. Set up the same, the 1440 has a tendency to nose dive, or not provide enough front foot pressure.
Looking at the Mako on the web site, it looks to have a lot of tail rocker, so I'd suggest shimming the rear of the base plate until the board feels right and the foil turns well, then mess around with different brand stabilizers. BTW, I use the 1440 winging with an Onofoil 15" and it feels great!



I actually tried a 0.8 and 1deg plate shim on the SIC - neither really helped.

Then I went winging again with the 1440 on a different board - One 5"0 and same issue - not enough front foot pressure and too far back from strap inserts. Even tried shimming the stab under the forward hole, made no difference. Bit of a mystery this 1440....


What mast/fuse @ Alysum?

ibid
NSW, 126 posts
6 Nov 2022 10:05AM
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Alysum said..
I tried the 1440 on my SIC Mako board and unfortunately the tracks aren't forward enough
I need more front foot pressure, my toes touch the inserts of the back of forward straps.

I tried a 1deg plate shim but my friend said the board was too nose up.

I guess I should try shim the 178 stab next? Any advice?




Tail rocker on Mako 6'5 compared to Sunova 6'2 would affect the nose up attitude

Alysum
NSW, 980 posts
6 Nov 2022 11:26PM
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toppleover said..

Alysum said..


Hwy1North said..



Alysum said..
I tried the 1440 on my SIC Mako board and unfortunately the tracks aren't forward enough
I need more front foot pressure, my toes touch the inserts of the back of forward straps.

I tried a 1deg plate shim but my friend said the board was too nose up.

I guess I should try shim the 178 stab next? Any advice?





I find the 1440 also needs to be ridden a bit more forward than the 1095, which likes to be ridden somewhat forward... the biggest change for me is shiming the stab differently. I usually add a bit of lift on the rear screw of the stab for the 1095, and either flat or a bit of lift on the front screw for the 1440. Set up the same, the 1440 has a tendency to nose dive, or not provide enough front foot pressure.
Looking at the Mako on the web site, it looks to have a lot of tail rocker, so I'd suggest shimming the rear of the base plate until the board feels right and the foil turns well, then mess around with different brand stabilizers. BTW, I use the 1440 winging with an Onofoil 15" and it feels great!




I actually tried a 0.8 and 1deg plate shim on the SIC - neither really helped.

Then I went winging again with the 1440 on a different board - One 5"0 and same issue - not enough front foot pressure and too far back from strap inserts. Even tried shimming the stab under the forward hole, made no difference. Bit of a mystery this 1440....



What mast/fuse @ Alysum?


The new carbon mast+fuse.

Hwy1North
78 posts
7 Nov 2022 5:31AM
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A final thought: even if you get all the trim angles correct etc. if you are overpowering the foil with too much power from a wing or dropping in on long period swell, it will dive. The 1095 can really haul a$$, but the 1440 is a slow poke in comparison.

martyman
WA, 257 posts
26 Nov 2022 6:20AM
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A final thought: even if you get all the trim angles correct etc. if you are overpowering the foil with too much power from a wing or dropping in on long period swell, it will dive. The 1095 can really haul a$$, but the 1440 is a slow poke in comparison.



I have never had the experience where my 1440 dives. Do you mean it sucks water down and stalls?

Hwy1North
78 posts
27 Nov 2022 12:28PM
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martyman said..

Hwy1North said..
A final thought: even if you get all the trim angles correct etc. if you are overpowering the foil with too much power from a wing or dropping in on long period swell, it will dive. The 1095 can really haul a$$, but the 1440 is a slow poke in comparison.




I have never had the experience where my 1440 dives. Do you mean it sucks water down and stalls?


Asylum was/is having a hard time with it. So comments were aimed at his struggles... I bought thinking I was going to try downwinding and figured the 1210 was too close to the 1095. When I first tried it, it was winging; I found I had to stand on my back leg to keep the board nose up (diving.) I tuned the rear stab and moved the mast forward, and it's good. But if I get powered up, and unlike most foils that are more front foot lifty, the foil hits it's max speed and gets really stiff feeling, and again requires stomping the back foot more.

I went sup foiling the other day with a 13.5 KD tail and small slow waves. Good carves, long glides. Loved it.

Then a day ago thought I'd try on some long period swell where the wave a frames over a reef before peeling with head high walls. Total disaster. Way too much drag on take off, and same fight over needing lots of back foot pressure to keep the nose up. Fine once way out on the shoulder.

What I love about it is it feels enough like the 1095 that my set up is the same for both. Just have to use for light wind winging and low power foiling, then it's great fun.

Never stalled. On some downwind winging, it can sometimes catch windswell and change direction by itself, so a stiffer mast than I have (carbon T) might help. Longer drawn out turns helps too.



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