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Takuma Kujira

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Created by Filow > 9 months ago, 16 Sep 2020
Velocicraptor
528 posts
2 Aug 2022 1:02AM
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Mast to fuse and baseplate bolts are all m8. Long overdue.

They also released a kujira 500.

foilthegreats
526 posts
2 Aug 2022 9:02PM
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Update on my Takuma Kujira 1210 after 3 sessions. The foil cracked/broke completely through front to back.

I've applied for warranty but it was rejected by Takuma because I have a few scuffs on the foil.

Just a warning to potential customers on how Takuma warranty could be handled and the quality of product. For a premium brand I am disappointed.

I've own/ed about +20 foils from Armstrong, Naish, Cloud9 and have never had a problem like this.

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Velocicraptor
528 posts
2 Aug 2022 9:24PM
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foilthegreats said..
Update on my Takuma Kujira 1210 after 3 sessions. The foil cracked/broke completely through front to back.

I've applied for warranty but it was rejected by Takuma because I have a few scuffs on the foil.

Just a warning to potential customers on how Takuma warranty could be handled and the quality of product. For a premium brand I am disappointed.

I've own/ed about +20 foils from Armstrong, Naish, Cloud9 and have never had a problem like this.

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Thats a huge bummer. Luckily I haven't had this issue on my Takuma gear. I did mangle an aluminum mast and they (Chinook) were pretty good about getting me a replacement. It took a while, but they were fairly easy and understanding with it.

I really hope Takuma can bring their construction and engineering up to par with their design.

foilthegreats
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2 Aug 2022 9:58PM
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Velocicraptor said..

foilthegreats said..
Update on my Takuma Kujira 1210 after 3 sessions. The foil cracked/broke completely through front to back.

I've applied for warranty but it was rejected by Takuma because I have a few scuffs on the foil.

Just a warning to potential customers on how Takuma warranty could be handled and the quality of product. For a premium brand I am disappointed.

I've own/ed about +20 foils from Armstrong, Naish, Cloud9 and have never had a problem like this.

See pictures below:






























Thats a huge bummer. Luckily I haven't had this issue on my Takuma gear. I did mangle an aluminum mast and they (Chinook) were pretty good about getting me a replacement. It took a while, but they were fairly easy and understanding with it.

I really hope Takuma can bring their construction and engineering up to par with their design.


Just to be clear, I purchased from varuste.net in Finland. So it would be the European distributor processing my claim.

It's a bummer for sure but the real loss is for Takuma as I would have spent good money with them into the future. Now I will tell everyone who would listen to stay away.

I will try and possibly fix the foil but don't think my skills will be up to the challenge. Will probably start a thread looking for advise on this.

Hdip
384 posts
2 Aug 2022 11:46PM
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Wow. I would try the company directly. Or on Social Media. That is in no way acceptable. The few scrapes you have on there are so minor. Sorry man.

foilstate
129 posts
3 Aug 2022 12:04AM
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Absolute bummer. They changed my cracked 1095 in warranty, a few friends also have had a good experience with their warranty.
To fix it you will probably need to vaccum bag some carbon laminate wrapping the whole airfoil, maybe someone experienced with this can help you out repairing it.

foilfondler
19 posts
3 Aug 2022 12:49AM
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I got cracks in two of my LOL's, bought through Mac kite in the US, who replaced them. I fixed the broken ones too. Bagging wasn't necessary for me, particularly on the front where my cracks were, since its all convex. Just use a bunch of thin strips of peel ply and a roller to get as much epoxy above the peel ply as possible. But then again you have tubercles to contend with, and the trailing edge which has concave shapes so any tension could pull the laminate off. That's a bummer...

Hwy1North
129 posts
5 Aug 2022 1:02PM
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Not to kick you when you're down and I've had my share of Takuma quality issues too, but in this case, I might have to side (albeit only slighty cause I bet Chinook would've warranteed it) with Takuma. It looks to me like the foil hit the bottom and flexed against the bend causing the split. Maybe that's not what happened and it just wasn't glued up properly in the mold, too. Anyway, you might try fixing by heating up a small amount of 2 part epoxy so that it runs thin (but doesn't smoke) and use a q-tip or something to feed into the the split. Clamp it and clean up with alcohol.

Jeroensurf
866 posts
5 Aug 2022 10:16PM
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All the gear I know got from time to time issues. It always hurts but important is how the shop/distributor deals with it before i decide to switch brands.

dejavu
807 posts
6 Aug 2022 1:29AM
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Quote from foilthegreats: "Just to be clear, I purchased from varuste.net in Finland. So it would be the European distributor processing my claim."

Why purchase from Finland and rely on a foreign distributor to process a warranty claim? You're not far from where I reside -- I'm about 30 minutes north east of Picton. I purchased both my Takuma Kujira and Slingshot Phantasm foils locally. I'd rather have someone l know, with whom I have a purchasing history, handle warranty claims than deal with someone I don't know in a country thousands of miles away. I just ordered the 92 cm. Nolimitiz mast with the Kujira adaptor and was treated very fairly. Just a thought.

JuriM
91 posts
6 Aug 2022 5:59PM
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dejavu said..
Quote from foilthegreats: "Just to be clear, I purchased from varuste.net in Finland. So it would be the European distributor processing my claim."

Why purchase from Finland and rely on a foreign distributor to process a warranty claim? You're not far from where I reside -- I'm about 30 minutes north east of Picton. I purchased both my Takuma Kujira and Slingshot Phantasm foils locally. I'd rather have someone l know, with whom I have a purchasing history, handle warranty claims than deal with someone I don't know in a country thousands of miles away. I just ordered the 92 cm. Nolimitiz mast with the Kujira adaptor and was treated very fairly. Just a thought.


For me, Varuste.net is a local dealer. I think a friend's husband actually works there as a programmer. And I'm Finnish...So I'm potentially biased.

I bought my Helium 1500 from there, had a corrosion issue with the plate mount and had it replaced under warranty. They called me at least twice about the replacement and were very apologetic that they didn't have a replacement in stock and I had to wait for them to get the new one from Takuma, but it was winter, so I didn't care if it took a few weeks. They don't seem to carry a very wide selection of Takuma gear anymore, but the prices are pretty decent right now and if you review your purchase, I think you get a 6 month warranty extension, so you effectively get an "extra summer" of warranty.

If you're within the European Union, it doesn't really matter which EU country you buy from aside from potential language issues. If you're in the US, buying from another state sometimes even works in your advantage (the sales tax thing). If you're English-speaking and buying in Europe, you're more likely to get good service in English from a Finnish store than from a French store. In my experience, countries that dub all the TV shows from English to their local language have far fewer people that are comfortable speaking and writing English.

But since you guys seem to be in America, American dealers probably make more sense... If I buy something something from the US and it's defective and I get a warranty replacement, I have to have proof of returned goods or I have to pay taxes and customs duties all over again when the replacement arrives. I don't know if the reverse also applies, but it can be a pain if the seller doesn't actually need the defective goods returned to them.

foilthegreats
526 posts
16 Aug 2022 2:40AM
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Thanks for all the comments and suggestions.

I'm just going to chalk this one up as a loss.

JonnieTyler
20 posts
17 Aug 2022 1:47AM
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About 11 months ago, I had switched from Takuma 980/1210 to the Lift 120. The Lift 120 felt like it turned just as well as the TK980, and I could pump the Lift 120 just as well as the TK1210. So the Lift 120 has been my go to foil.

A few months ago, I got a long fuselage adapter and KD Maui Boomerang tail for the Lift 120. My pumping improved and I was double dipping on almost every session. But then I seemed to have plateaued.

So 3 weeks ago, I put the KDMaui Boomerang tail on the Takuma 1210 and holy ****, my pumping improved quite a bit. My best pump out the back distance stayed about the same (just over 100yd), but I'm much more consistent. With the TK1210/Boomerang combo, I've been able to kick out over whitewater, recover my momentum and pump out to a 2nd wave. Before, with any foil setup, if I kicked out over white water, I couldn't get going again.

With the Lift 120, my cardio was preventing me from getting triples. With the TK1210/Boomerang, triples are now happening. Also with the Lift 120, I was usually running out of gas by the time I got to my 2nd wave that I didn't have my much energy for the connection turn. With the TK1210/Boomerang, I've got more energy to hit the connection turn harder.

One drawback for the TK1210/Boomerang is that for me, once it gets over CH or so, the takeoffs become more difficult compared to the Lift 120.

The other downside for the TK1210 is that on the two occasions that I've gotten smacked in the head by a foil and drawn blood, it was with the TK1210. Neither incident needed stitches.

The most recent incident got caught on the Surfline Rewind. I was pumping out for a connection turn, went for a roundhouse cutback, fell in front of my board, and the video showed the board continuing ON foil without me. The foil gave me a light tap above my left eyebrow. Just hard enough to draw blood and end the session.

The TK1210/Boomerang setup is now my daily driver. I'll switch to the Lift 120 on the bigger days. The Lift 120 will probably become my daily driver again once my pump cardio improves. I'm definitely getting a better leg workout with the TK1210.

toppleover
QLD, 2033 posts
17 Aug 2022 10:41AM
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JonnieTyler said..
About 11 months ago, I had switched from Takuma 980/1210 to the Lift 120. The Lift 120 felt like it turned just as well as the TK980, and I could pump the Lift 120 just as well as the TK1210. So the Lift 120 has been my go to foil.

A few months ago, I got a long fuselage adapter and KD Maui Boomerang tail for the Lift 120. My pumping improved and I was double dipping on almost every session. But then I seemed to have plateaued.

So 3 weeks ago, I put the KDMaui Boomerang tail on the Takuma 1210 and holy ****, my pumping improved quite a bit. My best pump out the back distance stayed about the same (just over 100yd), but I'm much more consistent. With the TK1210/Boomerang combo, I've been able to kick out over whitewater, recover my momentum and pump out to a 2nd wave. Before, with any foil setup, if I kicked out over white water, I couldn't get going again.

With the Lift 120, my cardio was preventing me from getting triples. With the TK1210/Boomerang, triples are now happening. Also with the Lift 120, I was usually running out of gas by the time I got to my 2nd wave that I didn't have my much energy for the connection turn. With the TK1210/Boomerang, I've got more energy to hit the connection turn harder.

One drawback for the TK1210/Boomerang is that for me, once it gets over CH or so, the takeoffs become more difficult compared to the Lift 120.

The other downside for the TK1210 is that on the two occasions that I've gotten smacked in the head by a foil and drawn blood, it was with the TK1210. Neither incident needed stitches.

The most recent incident got caught on the Surfline Rewind. I was pumping out for a connection turn, went for a roundhouse cutback, fell in front of my board, and the video showed the board continuing ON foil without me. The foil gave me a light tap above my left eyebrow. Just hard enough to draw blood and end the session.

The TK1210/Boomerang setup is now my daily driver. I'll switch to the Lift 120 on the bigger days. The Lift 120 will probably become my daily driver again once my pump cardio improves. I'm definitely getting a better leg workout with the TK1210.




Hey Jonnie, how does the 1210 turn with the boomerang? - not from personal experience but from reading on the web - the boomers turned that well...just good for lift/pumping??

Alysum
NSW, 1024 posts
18 Aug 2022 6:58PM
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So the boomerang KD stab improves pumping simply because it is an extension of the fuse and therefore more glide and stability per pump right?

Johndesu
NSW, 549 posts
18 Aug 2022 7:18PM
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Alysum said..
So the boomerang KD stab improves pumping simply because it is an extension of the fuse and therefore more glide and stability per pump right?


Just wondering how you rate (and anyone else) the standard straight with slight downward turned tips 13/14"straight KD stab & also if anyone has tried the Armstrong HA 195 stab with the 1210??:-)

JonnieTyler
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19 Aug 2022 11:10AM
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Hey Jonnie, how does the 1210 turn with the boomerang? - not from personal experience but from reading on the web - the boomers turned that well...just good for lift/pumping??


For me, the KD Boomerang tail turns better than the stock tail that came with the 1210. I'd say say it turns just as well as the original KD 13.5" tail. I've gotten my best cutbacks with the boomerang tail. There's an Instagram clip of Zane Westwood ripping it up on a Lift 120/KD Boomerang tail combo.

I have NOT seen any video clips of anyone else riding the 1210 with the KD Boomerang tail.

JonnieTyler
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19 Aug 2022 11:17AM
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Alysum said..
So the boomerang KD stab improves pumping simply because it is an extension of the fuse and therefore more glide and stability per pump right?


I don't how much of a fuse extension it is, but when I used the KD Boomerang on a Lift 120 with a short fuse adapter (same length as stock fuse), the setup was too unstable. I was blowing a lot more takeoffs with short fuse/boomerang setup. Once I switched to a long fuse adapter for the Lift 120, then the Boomerang tail felt great. That's when I realized the KD Boomerang tail would be a good fit with Takuma since Takuma has a relatively long fuselage.

BatNC
2 posts
7 Sep 2022 6:11AM
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Hi there, I am the happy (and lucky) owner of the new Takuma Carbon mast for a few weeks. I went from the TK65 with Tbar 75cm to the CK50 with the new 75cm high modulus carbon mast. My program is very freefly oriented (downwind in the swell of the Noum?a lagoon) and after testing a lot of different gear I settled on the takuma kujira for the best glide/maneuverability compromise. I was able to test the new mast with the 750, 980 and 1095. The gain in rigidity is really very significant compared to the Tbar. I immediately feel the difference, I feel better what is happening in the water, so I am much more precise and I correct faster because the rigidity allows to be more reactive. It also pumps better (better restitution of the efforts due to the rigidity).

It allowed me to make great progress in carving when downwinding on the swell and to have fun with the 980,750 and 1095 (on which the gain in rigidity is even more noticeable).
We lose a little in gliding compared to the Tbar (14.5 mm instead of 13mm I think) but in the end we go at least as fast, even faster because we feel more in control at high speed.
All coupled with the ck50 and I really felt a great evolution in rigidity, precision and responsiveness which really helps to progress. FYI, I'm 70kg, the Tbar had an incredible glide but I don't regret my evolution at all.
The more you progress, the more you want to carve in the wave, go fast, pump far and this set is excellent for that. And in addition, the finish of the mast is perfect, assembly in M8 (plate and fuselage), conical junction which does not move at all at the level of the fuselage, new refined fuselage towards the stab, and system to block the front wing works well. The quality of the set seems now to be one of the best on the market.
Takuma took time to release it bit it was worth it, it's really a significant evolution for foiling.


toppleover
QLD, 2033 posts
10 Sep 2022 5:08PM
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I've been in love with 980 for 2 seasons now, for my local conditions it does it all, I recently added the 13R & just got the 78NL with Stringy adjustable fuse & it feels next level in performance.
If the new Takuma gear was available & they did an 80cm mast I would have grabbed one for sure.


Camarillo
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10 Sep 2022 4:14PM
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BatNC said..
The gain in rigidity is really very significant compared to the Tbar.


I would like to know how stiff the new carbon mast is compared to the old aluminium mast , the Nolimitz and the Cedrus.
I already use the Cedrus in 75cm (foilsup) and in 90 cm (wing)
I would love some extra glide, especially for paddling with a 75 cm mast , but but I don't want to lose too much stiffness compared to the Cedrus....

Camarillo
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10 Sep 2022 4:20PM
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toppleover said..
I've been in love with 980 for 2 seasons now, for my local conditions it does it all, I recently added the 13R & just got the 78NL with Stringy adjustable fuse & it feels next level in performance.
If the new Takuma gear was available & they did an 80cm mast I would have grabbed one for sure.


In what way is the Stringy fuse adjustable?

toppleover
QLD, 2033 posts
10 Sep 2022 7:20PM
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Camarillo said..

toppleover said..
I've been in love with 980 for 2 seasons now, for my local conditions it does it all, I recently added the 13R & just got the 78NL with Stringy adjustable fuse & it feels next level in performance.
If the new Takuma gear was available & they did an 80cm mast I would have grabbed one for sure.



In what way is the Stringy fuse adjustable?


2 stab positions

Velocicraptor
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11 Sep 2022 7:37AM
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toppleover said..

Camarillo said..


toppleover said..
I've been in love with 980 for 2 seasons now, for my local conditions it does it all, I recently added the 13R & just got the 78NL with Stringy adjustable fuse & it feels next level in performance.
If the new Takuma gear was available & they did an 80cm mast I would have grabbed one for sure.




In what way is the Stringy fuse adjustable?



2 stab positions


Mine has 3. Only using the middle one these days.

Camarillo
365 posts
14 Sep 2022 9:21PM
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Does anyone know how stiff the new carbon mast is compared to the old aluminium mast?

martyman
WA, 314 posts
17 Sep 2022 4:11AM
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Another option to firm up the wing/fuse connection is to make a shim like in pic below out of some X-ray film.
I've made one for my 750 & it's pretty much a perfect fit.


Did u weld a machined insert onto another fuselage?

toppleover
QLD, 2033 posts
17 Sep 2022 7:21PM
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martyman said..

toppleover said..
Another option to firm up the wing/fuse connection is to make a shim like in pic below out of some X-ray film.
I've made one for my 750 & it's pretty much a perfect fit.


Did u weld a machined insert onto another fuselage?


No marty, that pics not mine - I just made a similar shim out of X-ray film.

marck140
6 posts
20 Sep 2022 9:38AM
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Hi recently ordered the 980 and just wanted to get some insight. I've read about the "takuma pump" in several forums but haven't found a good description of it. What is the technique? How is it different than pumping a lift setup? Also what tail do most find the best fit for pumping efficiency with the 980? Thanks!

Hdip
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20 Sep 2022 11:23AM
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marck140 said..
Hi recently ordered the 980 and just wanted to get some insight. I've read about the "takuma pump" in several forums but haven't found a good description of it. What is the technique? How is it different than pumping a lift setup? Also what tail do most find the best fit for pumping efficiency with the 980? Thanks!


I mainly ride lift. I had a takuma 1210 for awhile. Takuma is easier to pump, you'll be fine. Technically I'd say the pump pressure starts earlier and higher on the mast. Lift pump pressure is later in the glide and lower down on the mast.

toppleover
QLD, 2033 posts
20 Sep 2022 1:51PM
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I've not ridden Lift but been on Kujira's for a few seasons now (fav is the 980).
I get the most pump out of the KD13R but the KJ178 is also good.



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