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Fisherman throwing half bricks at Kiters -St Kilda

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Created by Sills > 9 months ago, 4 Apr 2016
Sills
VIC, 8 posts
4 Apr 2016 4:34PM
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Sunday Afternoon - arrived upwind along the edge of the jetty in pretty light air to a barrage of rocks and bricks being hurled at me and other kiters!

I pulled into the corner not really believing what was happening and when I started the run back along the pier I had a half brick (Well aimed) hurled at my head at a closing speed of plenty. I ducked. Otherwise I would have been probably pretty injured or knocked out.

I stopped and gave the loser plenty of lip (And he returned some before throwing many smaller rocks ) Better range...

I considered my options and decided against avoiding confrontation/ and a possible stint in jail for killing the arse
hole.

A couple of younger kiters were also attacked, after I went in - with one bloke landing his kite and confronting the fisho. He ended up in a scuffle with some injuries - (The fisho teamed up with 4 others and they went for knives.).

A few blokes bonded up and headed up to the pier but were stopped by police who took all our names and said that there was nothing they could do as "conflicting statements" as QUOTE " AFTER ALL - You Kiters were running through their fishing lines. ! "

I have heard a lot of crap in my time - but this had to be the biggest load of **** I'd ever heard.

Some Forward planning:

Water police conduct fishing licence checks apparently if called. I'm calling them on every fisho I see on that pier before I kite.
Piers are built for sailing vessels - (Not fishermen) - We have got right of way.

Anyone got any comments or help on this - I'm all ears .


Sills
VIC, 8 posts
4 Apr 2016 5:00PM
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I just contacted the water police on this. They were really interested in the situation down there and said they wished we'd called them! (They didn't recieve notice)

They are all about safety in waters in Victoria - and heavily against any aggressive behaviour that endangers anyone in the water.

They have asked that we keep their number on hand should the situation arise again. (Please call them)

They offered the advice to remain calm and courteous to other activities in the marina - Respect the fishermen and their sport also.

In Short - They offered the following advice:

1. Approach the fishermen at low speed before we enter the area and discuss out plans (Likely Courses) - and see if an agreement can be made before hitting the area with speed...
2. Don't get too excited if they blow up.... We only have right of way as marine vessels if "Intending to dock' - In which case all other parties on pier must give way. (Legals) - If we are not intending to dock - There are also speed limits of 5 knots that apply... (So it goes both ways).
3. Don't take matters into your own hands. It will only make things worse.
4. The St Kilda Pier is a magnet for tourism in the area. Aggressive/Offensive/Violent behaviour is not what the council wants. (They spent a lot of money re-doveloping the area and have plans in place to do more). Bring up the issue with council if pressure on the limited space continues. (They may already have plans to initiate a zone for recreational fisherman away from the mooring area).


Again - Any comments or ideas are welcomed. Im about Done - and I don't want to go any further. Just a heads up to the Kite community. -

Sandfoot
VIC, 566 posts
4 Apr 2016 8:04PM
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Sounds pretty full on, I guess the best avenue is to go through the Victorian kite boarding association. And take a slingshot with you. Either type

Loftywinds
QLD, 2060 posts
5 Apr 2016 7:26AM
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Maybe they've heard I was in town but missed me by a day! (I kited there Sat instead).

Seriously - what tools. We get idiot fishos doing the same up here. They just rock up, set down like as if they're in a cricket match with eskys, chairs, etc and throw a line right in the middle of our take off point. And they have the gaul to say they were there first! Bogans

suniboy21
VIC, 1090 posts
5 Apr 2016 8:10PM
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Didn't you read the MEMO about kitting close to the pier?
All that space to kite and you have to get right up near the pier...

Loftywinds
QLD, 2060 posts
6 Apr 2016 10:15AM
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suniboy21 said..
Didn't you read the MEMO about kitting close to the pier?
All that space to kite and you have to get right up near the pier...


Last Sat, there were about 5 guys riding the lower half of St Kilda, but they were at least 100m anywhere near the pier.

Everyone knows not to kite near the pier, but tell that to some "pro locals" that should know better, and set examples.

gazman2
VIC, 112 posts
6 Apr 2016 7:55PM
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Suniboy21 hit the nail on the head with this one ,or should I say brick on the head.

RosieKB
VIC, 240 posts
6 Apr 2016 8:20PM
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I'd think you'd have to be pretty close to the pier to get hit by a flying brick?

suniboy21
VIC, 1090 posts
7 Apr 2016 7:56AM
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Old mates name says it all. "rolls eyes"

extreme
VIC, 74 posts
7 Apr 2016 2:12PM
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Lofty,Gaz and Suni,you guys think throwing bricks is ok,you guys need to fish somewhere else!

Loftywinds
QLD, 2060 posts
7 Apr 2016 2:23PM
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extreme said..
Lofty,Gaz and Suni,you guys think throwing bricks is ok,you guys need to fish somewhere else!


?!?!?!?!?!?????!!! !???!!?!

Lost for words - just as well.

Saffer
VIC, 4501 posts
7 Apr 2016 5:13PM
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extreme said..
Lofty,Gaz and Suni,you guys think throwing bricks is ok,you guys need to fish somewhere else!


Nope, they're not saying it's okay, they're saying the kiters shouldn't be there in the first place and if they weren't there like they shouldn't have been, the bricks would not have been thrown at them. It's not hard to understand.

suniboy21
VIC, 1090 posts
7 Apr 2016 7:50PM
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Take a few moments out of your life to look down the Vic page and notice all the post from KBV about kiting near the pier. Best yet give Rick a call and complain to him about how hard down by you are!

RosieKB
VIC, 240 posts
8 Apr 2016 8:45PM
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Dumb and dumber

extreme
VIC, 74 posts
9 Apr 2016 1:49PM
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Ha Ha dont like a joke?
but seriously,throwing a brick at someone multiple times could kill them!
even if he was kiting on the pier this should not happen
Rules rules blah blah

Kamikuza
QLD, 6493 posts
9 Apr 2016 2:31PM
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extreme said..
Ha Ha dont like a joke?
but seriously,throwing a brick at someone multiple times could kill them!
even if he was kiting on the pier this should not happen
Rules rules blah blah


Zigackly. Who appointed the fisher****s as police, judge, jury and executioner?

SaltySinus
VIC, 960 posts
11 Apr 2016 8:07PM
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There are idiots that fish, there are idiots that kite... let's not tarnish them with the same brush.

Sounds pretty full on though. Glad you're alright.

Peterc150
VIC, 710 posts
12 Apr 2016 10:50AM
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Beware kiting past the end of the breakwater. I thought the area was closed due to the penguin colony, but there were two guys fishing there a couple of weeks ago. I looked hard but didn't spot them until I was quite close. Very hard to see them among the rocks.

Loftywinds
QLD, 2060 posts
13 Apr 2016 10:02AM
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SaltySinus said..
There are idiots that fish, there are idiots that kite... let's not tarnish them with the same brush.

Sounds pretty full on though. Glad you're alright.



That rhymed. Make it into a song?

THE DONG
VIC, 518 posts
30 Apr 2016 2:35PM
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Just aswell you guys all wear helmets down there. Hopefully no go pros were damaged in the process

RedKite
VIC, 66 posts
6 Jun 2016 8:54PM
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The fishos are not only doing it to kiters.

They are also doing this to paddle boarders or if you are in a kajak going below 5kn navigating your way out or in the harbour.

And the guys that fish on the breakwall which is officially closed, are also throwing stones at you when you kite there and they think you are too close.

Great image for St Kilda, with fishos pulling knives on people on a tourist destination.
A good enough reason to ban fishing from the pier.

SaltySinus
VIC, 960 posts
7 Jun 2016 10:47AM
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RedKite said..
The fishos are not only doing it to kiters.

They are also doing this to paddle boarders or if you are in a kajak going below 5kn navigating your way out or in the harbour.

And the guys that fish on the breakwall which is officially closed, are also throwing stones at you when you kite there and they think you are too close.

Great image for St Kilda, with fishos pulling knives on people on a tourist destination.
A good enough reason to ban fishing from the pier.


I hear you, but if we banned every activity because of idiots, we'd be banning kiting, surfing, drivers, etc.

If only there were laws governing behavior in public places...



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