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Big air twintip recommendations

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Created by bramber 1 month ago, 21 Oct 2021
bramber
VIC, 119 posts
21 Oct 2021 9:43AM
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I'm looking for a big air twin top that can also handle a bit of freestyle and is not too uncomfortable for riding in the usual choppy bay swell I get.

I am thinking of the north Atmos or similar. Is this any good? Any other ideas?

Also is it passable to use a big air board such as the Atmos as a kind of poor man's light wind twintip? I'm a bit cash strapped and can't afford two boards (ie a big air and a lightwind twintip) but if the big air board is also a fast board I'm wondering if it can work light wind too?

LePhasme
WA, 18 posts
21 Oct 2021 8:52AM
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I went through that recently, my final top 3 was between the airush apex team, the crazyfly raptor extreme and the duotone jamie SLS (I'm not ready to spend 2k+ on a carve imperator).
I did a demo of the apex and the raptor (gave up on the jamie because it was a fair bit more expensive), both were good, ended up going with the raptor because there was a 30% discount on it at the time so the price was a few hundred bucks lower plus it's bright red making it easier to see when I lose my board.

If there wasn't that price difference, I would have scratched my head for a while to make my choice, as the sensations were pretty close.

I don't think any big air board would be good for lightwind as you usually want a board on the smaller size for big air (easier to hold your edge overpowered, and better pop), and for lightwind you mainly want a bigger board.

IanR
NSW, 1157 posts
21 Oct 2021 7:50PM
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I would not be considering a big air board for light wind
Rather buy a board for your average conditions.
And make a board for light winds. There are plenty of plans and methods for making a plywood board. You don't really need high performance concave and shapes for a light wind board just surface area and a small rocker

SaveTheWhales
WA, 1815 posts
22 Oct 2021 7:22AM
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Nobile NHP is an excellent board for both styles and conditions.
It's fast, can munch chop and land freestyle big air moves easily on the knees..
Don't forget - king of air guys are on freestyle boards Not short flat water speed boards..

I think Aron Hadlow got the biggest jump 34m in the Euro cold Hawaii big air comp on a Duo Tone Dice and freestyle board..

LePhasme
WA, 18 posts
22 Oct 2021 3:26PM
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Mainly he was on a 9m kite in 50kn, and there were small waves as kickers, I don't think the board had much to do in his record.

SaveTheWhales
WA, 1815 posts
23 Oct 2021 12:21AM
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LePhasme said..
Mainly he was on a 9m kite in 50kn, and there were small waves as kickers, I don't think the board had much to do in his record.


and that just answers the question - its skill that gets you going big, anything will work if you know how to.
Did Kevin ride a speed TT or XR kite when he won 3 years in a row - No

eppo
WA, 8567 posts
24 Oct 2021 9:25AM
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Yeh but who here will ever be at Hadlows or Kevin's level ? So gear is more important for us. Don't use pros to make a point. It's pointless. Vouch for the Nobile NHP - although she is a heavyish board. Which can be useful.

Chris_M
2084 posts
24 Oct 2021 6:35PM
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Something a little narrower and a bit smaller than usual will help you boost big when the wind is strong.

My latest board is a North focus which I am finding just a tiny bit too wide in the tips to get the amount of edge that I want when overpowered, but in saying that I got a new PB on it the other day. Been eyeing up my mates atmos which I probably should have gone with.... narrower in the tips, guys getting good scores on them. The focus good for general free riding and stuff as well though, so a good purchase. Would recommend either. If you got the extra cash go for the carbon option for a stiffer ride, the hybrid is a bit too flexy for my liking however I think Jesse took the 2020 KOTA on the focus hybrid

Sandfoot
VIC, 510 posts
25 Oct 2021 4:08PM
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Most of the recent freeride, quad concave boards will have a wide wind range, go one size larger. Sty away from Freestyle boards if you want lighter wind performance.

The North Atmos looks very similar to the Cabrinha Ace.

I was given a 139 Ace Carbon, badly cracked, repaired it out of curiosity, rode it on the bay...Super impressed with this board... just bit a too stiff for me.

hosh
WA, 209 posts
25 Oct 2021 3:33PM
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Anyone tried the Ozone Torque V2?

Madda
3 posts
28 Oct 2021 4:10AM
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Hi all , hoping someone might be able to recommend a new board for me. Currently riding a liberty axis , 145 x45 ( I'm 195cm ,95 kg) last season I started doing some decent jumps and landed a few back rolls etc so hoping to build on that this season. It did feel like the board was too heavy so just wondering what board/ size I should look at next ?

cbulota
WA, 1355 posts
28 Oct 2021 6:07AM
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Madda said..
Hi all , hoping someone might be able to recommend a new board for me. Currently riding a liberty axis , 145 x45 ( I'm 195cm ,95 kg) last season I started doing some decent jumps and landed a few back rolls etc so hoping to build on that this season. It did feel like the board was too heavy so just wondering what board/ size I should look at next ?



That would vastly depend on your targeted wind range. For example, if you plan on focusing on a wind range of 25+ knots then you would benefit from going to a MUCH smaller and narrower board i.e. 133-136cm - Yes even at 95kg. If your target wind range is around 20-25 knots, then you shouldn't be going too small and maybe go for 138-140cm. If the wind range is around 15-20 knots then your current board size is ideal. With a good technique you can still do decent jumps on a larger board (i.e. 145cm) provided you are not overpowered.

High performance carbon boards such as the Airush Apex Team V7 that LePhasme mentioned above weighs in just a tad over 3kg fully kitted with straps on.

If you can demo boards that would be your best option. Not sure where you're located but feel free to contact me if you're in Perth and want to try some Airush boards.

Christian - KiteBud

Madda
3 posts
28 Oct 2021 2:53PM
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Appreciate the response and offer mate! Yeah I tend to go when it's at-least 19-20knkts. With my biggest (12m) I struggle with anything under 18knots.

I will look at getting something slightly smaller than my current one, I'm sure even the slightest difference in size/weight would make a big difference

ActionSportsWA
WA, 809 posts
3 Nov 2021 1:00PM
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Surprisingly, no one has asked the most relevant question. What are the water conditions you are riding in? This massively changes the recommendations for boards.

Usually, big air is done in strong powered to over powered conditions, so sea state is absolutely critical in determining the best board for jumping XL. If you ride somewhere like Augusta river, Woodies beach 3, or The Pond, then a medium flex and medium to low rocketed board that can hold speed is the goods, a single concave would work best in these conditions. if you ride at a location with small waves and clean smooth water in between like Dongara, then similar applies. However, if you ride where the water is rough or choppy, the best board would be something with a bit more rocker, a soft flex and a fast single concave with thin rails. Ultimate jump height is determined by the release from the water and the control at speed one second before the jump. The soft flex gives control to setup the edge at high speed. Control is everything! Freestyle boards are terrible in chop. Go a Shinn Monk or Duotone Select standard model, you don't need Carbon. We have demo boards available from all our suppliers. My big air weapons of choice this season?Flysurfer Soul 2, 10m with Flysurfer Radical 138. Send it!
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