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Kiting up north WA, for your information

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Created by cauncy > 9 months ago, 16 Sep 2020
Leighbreeze
WA, 531 posts
7 Oct 2020 8:19AM
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Yep figures.We would be in the same situation if the Vic borders were open.
Its been relatively quiet up until the October school holidays .

Andrash
WA, 637 posts
7 Oct 2020 4:32PM
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airsail said..

No international or interstate travel so WA locals are stuck at home, no Bali trips. So if you want some warmth you got to head north hence busy Exmouth.


Ningaloo is the only place in WA for reasonably predictable (late) winter kiting. A season in Sumbawa and Mauritius passed without Aussies. Kids get restless...

eppo
WA, 9372 posts
7 Oct 2020 6:57PM
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Been up here last few weeks. Yeh it's crowded but plenty of water space, haven't really noticed it except in town and the road into the park. It must be great for local businesses and the local economy so I say bring it on.
as far as the public message from Tom, what's with the angst. Where else does one get the message across which is a legitimate one if you've seen Wobiri lately. And what's wrong with a sign, advertising or not. It at least is a display that the kiting community is trying to self regulate.
personal grudges aside (Whilst entertaining) the message is a good one...

.... if ya sleep with dogs you will get fleas ....

timmybuddhadude
WA, 738 posts
7 Oct 2020 9:55PM
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LeighMajor said..
In regards to crowds in this Exmouth area.
Why is it overcrowded with COVID ?
No


Hi

Basically yes.. Because of covid heaps of people are stuck in the state. Yes (some) perth/international kiters seems to have a thing of going through people on beaches to 'show off' such as areas like the pond which isn't good especially with kids around but there are dozens who know what they are doing and don't cause any problems with them
In regards to the 'school' above they turned up a few years ago and as a longer term state kiter I.. As many do.. Have problems with their 'oh wobiri is gusty comments' as being around for a longer amount of time I know it's not #allways# gusty(rarely is).. . It's actually a bloody good spot.. and in that particular week the swell at wobiri was pretty amazing(2/3m?) so of course.. After the SW set in people wanted to kite it!!

The surf school above (which is new by my time frame) rocked up with students.. Respect to that.. Obviously some kiters wanted to do that swell too...so they did. I remember the days v well when there was no surf school there.
Part of me thinks well.. We could all kite it years ago on swell like that because we didn't have surf 'schools' to worry about.. Which is actually #annoying# to us and gets in the way..... as you can imagine.. . The other side has respect for it and tries to heed other kiters to 'be polite'..(I. E stay away).
. . So there's a wave you tack out to on the left where the experienced kiters go that doesn't cause any trouble.. This used to be a 'secret wave' like many others which is now advertised and congested much more so thanx to the school so the school has actually created a difficult situation with rifts with locals loosing their private breaks etc etc to some tourism business...... So dislike is there too..
The argument above from my point of view is related to the new school besides going round telling everyone what he thinks is 'right or wrong'... creating a fight with well known WA kite representative and godfather of the sport 20years ago basically having a fight picked on him by the new shop.... Literally.. (related to his wife treating the godfather like ###t).. .. And myself. At this point I put my foot down on here.. I have alot of respect for long term godfathers of the sport(or repairers)..
So I am crystal clear that if any sign goes up with that name on I will take it down myself....only due to the lack of respect for people kiting(and teaching) there.. at that exact same beach.. twenty years ago being disrespected.. The school seems to want their cake and to eat it but he's a v v good board shaper.. Maybe he's 'under the thumb' a v evil narcissistic thumb..?..
.. And that's what happened in that magic week.. To be continued... Dadadada roll on sister..

theDoctor
NSW, 5765 posts
8 Oct 2020 3:27AM
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I think you better stop drinking that toilet cleaner

ExSurfCentre
WA, 481 posts
8 Oct 2020 6:09AM
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timmybuddhadude said..

LeighMajor said..
In regards to crowds in this Exmouth area.
Why is it overcrowded with COVID ?
No



Hi

Basically yes.. Because of covid heaps of people are stuck in the state. Yes (some) perth/international kiters seems to have a thing of going through people on beaches to 'show off' such as areas like the pond which isn't good especially with kids around but there are dozens who know what they are doing and don't cause any problems with them
In regards to the 'school' above they turned up a few years ago and as a longer term state kiter I.. As many do.. Have problems with their 'oh wobiri is gusty comments' as being around for a longer amount of time I know it's not #allways# gusty(rarely is).. . It's actually a bloody good spot.. and in that particular week the swell at wobiri was pretty amazing(2/3m?) so of course.. After the SW set in people wanted to kite it!!

The surf school above (which is new by my time frame) rocked up with students.. Respect to that.. Obviously some kiters wanted to do that swell too...so they did. I remember the days v well when there was no surf school there.
Part of me thinks well.. We could all kite it years ago on swell like that because we didn't have surf 'schools' to worry about.. Which is actually #annoying# to us and gets in the way..... as you can imagine.. . The other side has respect for it and tries to heed other kiters to 'be polite'..(I. E stay away).
. . So there's a wave you tack out to on the left where the experienced kiters go that doesn't cause any trouble.. This used to be a 'secret wave' like many others which is now advertised and congested much more so thanx to the school so the school has actually created a difficult situation with rifts with locals loosing their private breaks etc etc to some tourism business...... So dislike is there too..
The argument above from my point of view is related to the new school besides going round telling everyone what he thinks is 'right or wrong'... creating a fight with well known WA kite representative and godfather of the sport 20years ago basically having a fight picked on him by the new shop.... Literally.. (related to his wife treating the godfather like ###t).. .. And myself. At this point I put my foot down on here.. I have alot of respect for long term godfathers of the sport(or repairers)..
So I am crystal clear that if any sign goes up with that name on I will take it down myself....only due to the lack of respect for people kiting(and teaching) there.. at that exact same beach.. twenty years ago being disrespected.. The school seems to want their cake and to eat it but he's a v v good board shaper.. Maybe he's 'under the thumb' a v evil narcissistic thumb..?..
.. And that's what happened in that magic week.. To be continued... Dadadada roll on sister..


How can I argue with such a well articulated statement like that I'm out. Thanks for reading the original post, hopefully it wen't someway to helping resolve the issue.

timmybuddhadude
WA, 738 posts
8 Oct 2020 9:29PM
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towradgi said..
Some downwinder kiters in Perth go through flagged areas all summer . Its a Perth disease .Not being a flagged lifesaver beach appears to have less authority and gives some kiters an invitation to do as they please at your beach.


Yup
Honestly I'd love to have words with one or two perth kiters not only that if you go down a break.. And plan on doing it again.. .. You go 'ROUND' in a circle and give everyone a chance.. Don't the 'flatties' even do that??.. . If they did that in margaret river or SA breaks.... they would be kicked out straight away.. Nearly had my first accident for #five? years# this year.. Crossing straight up as they love jumping over the main break at wobiri when you are going down 3m? Avoiding rocks and bommies?then you have to avoid them too??.... Go round in a circle everyone #Pllleeeaase#
Anyway I had to quit that break and go out the 5/600m in the last hour before dark on my own (which is actually pretty normal and way safer in my op..).. As a minority of them are just WAAAY too dangerous crossing lines on it and stuff.. it's like they can't kite on their own and have to hold someone's hand all the time even when on a wave.
Most are brilliant though.. and humility is the best response (.. or wait till they've gone and go out on your own..)
Peace and respect
Hope that families enjoy the rest of the school holidays too..

bootsandloops
66 posts
8 Oct 2020 11:19PM
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timmybuddhadude said..
. . So there's a wave you tack out to on the left where the experienced kiters go that doesn't cause any trouble.. This used to be a 'secret wave'


Thanks I'll check it out!

Andrash
WA, 637 posts
9 Oct 2020 6:27AM
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ExSurfCentre said..

How can I argue with such a well articulated statement like that I'm out. Thanks for reading the original post, hopefully it wen't someway to helping resolve the issue.


Just for the balance, Mate, the "articulation" of your "statements" was also quite arthritic and inflamed at times... no?

I think, your mate had raised a few valid points and the "hints" of your self interest did not give a good flavor to your otherwise valid points either.

The whole issue of safety and (self) regulation has been on many times. I started about 15 years ago when the idea of any regulation wasn't quite popular . That was the time when kitesurfing began to transform from extreme sport into, what I think it is today, a popular pass time activity. So, beach closures followed.

I think, you should get in touch with WAKSA for a more coordinated approach... although it is good to stir the mud here too, at times...

stamp
QLD, 2758 posts
10 Oct 2020 2:49PM
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are you guys talking about wobiri or graveyards?

I spent three years living in exmouth, and the only time i saw wobiri any good for kiting was on a cyclone swell and when there was more west in the seabreeze than usual.

or maybe the sand has shifted a lot since 2008?

rodriego
WA, 20 posts
11 Oct 2020 8:55AM
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Yes Graveyards is the spot. Timmys been hitting the mushrooms again by the sound of it

Andrash
WA, 637 posts
11 Oct 2020 5:25PM
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rodriego said..
Yes Graveyards is the spot. Timmys been hitting the mushrooms again by the sound of it


Wobiri was quite busy while I was around...

timmybuddhadude
WA, 738 posts
12 Oct 2020 1:02PM
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Lol.. Shrooms.. I wish... Graveyards everyone stay there then the locals will love it.. And wiki camps Or live here then spend three mnths of the year every year but one checking doing all the spots !
Well that great white that's been hanging around our breaks has just been spotted.. again.. It's not normal for up here.. Ranger just called surfers etc out of the water and we were just about to launch for the bommie as it looks siiick.. Bugger

shi thouse
WA, 1129 posts
12 Oct 2020 1:40PM
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Just got back after 3 weeks up there and the water was the coldest I had experienced for that time of the year in the last 20+ years. Maybe that has something to do with it.

timmybuddhadude
WA, 738 posts
12 Oct 2020 7:39PM
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shi thouse said..
Just got back after 3 weeks up there and the water was the coldest I had experienced for that time of the year in the last 20+ years. Maybe that has something to do with it.


Yeeeah maybe..? or scareing off the 'tourists' as that's what the locals say lol.. I quite like them
One in marina apparently one in gulf dunes left /lighthouse this morning.. Those two other 'secret' breaks.. One of which I snorkelled on an inflatable two days before.. .. A fewyearsago one spotted diving at blizzard Ridge.. (top left site)... One at pier dive.. . Occasionally far out sightings on a whale sharkboats which were kept quiet.. ?? one round the back of turquoise Bay 2mnths ago
Never heard of them this regularly close to shore at our breaks before since 'wags' the dive photographer's inflatable 15ish years ago got chewed 200m off pebble beach
And yesterday I was out osprey back left on my own again at dusk.


timmybuddhadude
WA, 738 posts
17 Oct 2020 10:58PM
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Exmouth 'etiquette'.. Continued..
One #maaaajooor# bit of advice I can give to any kiter(or windsurfer/foiler doing any of these other 2/3km ish far out breaks.. As I tried to give advice to a few this year(as probably alot of longtermers know).. .. Is '#check#' to see there are no tinnies moored at these breaks before you launch & go out...( And they can reach there from several launch'spots'. ).. .. . The local surfers hate it and some have been doing it for decades.. And one of these breaks is particularly good 'surf' on a sw wind... Allthough everyone knows school hols are a special time for everyone
There are plenty of occasions when some surfers literally tell the kiters to 'f. Off' and say they have no real respect for them on the wave. So please just check their are no tinnies moored or if they are.. That you know them ??
Happy kiting
Perhaps this should be in the 'wa' section..

Dave Whettingsteel
WA, 1396 posts
18 Oct 2020 1:42PM
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timmybuddhadude said..
Exmouth 'etiquette'.. Continued..
One #maaaajooor# bit of advice I can give to any kiter(or windsurfer/foiler doing any of these other 2/3km ish far out breaks.. As I tried to give advice to a few this year(as probably alot of longtermers know).. .. Is '#check#' to see there are no tinnies moored at these breaks before you launch & go out...( And they can reach there from several launch'spots'. ).. .. . The local surfers hate it and some have been doing it for decades.. And one of these breaks is particularly good 'surf' on a sw wind... Allthough everyone knows school hols are a special time for everyone
There are plenty of occasions when some surfers literally tell the kiters to 'f. Off' and say they have no real respect for them on the wave. So please just check their are no tinnies moored or if they are.. That you know them ??
Happy kiting
Perhaps this should be in the 'wa' section..


Love the hash tagging Timmy! You've nailed it mate. :)

TurtleHunter
WA, 1675 posts
20 Oct 2020 7:35AM
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Lol

TurtleHunter
WA, 1675 posts
20 Oct 2020 7:51AM
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Toms right it's a kids surf beach. Parents don't want kites crashing near their kids just respect that and launch where he mentioned and head out to skeptics or kite at graveyards where you have the whole beach for kites/windsurfers.
Not sure what timmywhatever is talking about except the part about if there's surfers don't go out. I think the bigger risk To kids in the lineup is the sups but that's another argument

Hybrid_Z
VIC, 381 posts
20 Oct 2020 11:58AM
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Prime example of why this forum has died in the arse. Tom comes in with a reasonable message and the morons swoop in like a flock of retarded seagulls.

I'm with the "why would you kite Wobiri" crowd, so many better places to kite around there.

Cornishryan
WA, 159 posts
20 Oct 2020 10:26AM
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Absolutely - another throw of support Tom's way......
Anyone questioning what he is trying to get across need to take a serious look on the mirror. Safety and beach access are both affected if things go wrong here and again whilst I prefered to avoid the Wobiri crowds this year the points are very valid with the upsurge of kiting there.

For those who are maybe reading this post and are yet to meet Tom let me assure you that he is genuinely one of the nicest guys you'll ever meet who works hard to preserve the Exmouth kite and surf scene as well as running a great shop and board repair business......... it's very disappointing to see an individual making such ridiculous comments and accusations.

eppo
WA, 9372 posts
20 Oct 2020 11:54AM
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If you knew the person (and past and present actions) you wouldn't be too worried about the monkey dung being flung to Tom. Infact it's hilarious.

but that's the issue with social media, polarises and reduces the arguments to the extremes. Gives voice to those with the loudest.

That being said and in the name of trying to be balanced, the dung flunger has some good points as well. Infact couple of mates did head out to this break that was mentioned, surfers got pissed at them so they showed local respect (plus their frustration) and went back in. they ended up catching up with them after, had a few beers with them and all was cool.

that's how 99 percent of us behave in reality. good common sense, respect for each other. Infact even the dung flunger here is a really nice bloke, a little left of center (from my boring perspective) but overall a good person


but on any Internet forum (not just here) things get weird. I know I myself have been very guilty of losing my head in the past and have said some horrible things to some really good people. My bad.

Cornishryan
WA, 159 posts
20 Oct 2020 1:34PM
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Eppo mate - I know the guy of course and that is the only reason I felt the need to post the above. Constant swipes at genuine good guys and only an internet profile for some people to judge by just isnt cool in this sutuation.

I'm also well aware of said individuals past and present actions which again is why I have attempted to paint a more accurate picture of one of those he attempts to discredit.

Catchya soon for a beer mate. Ry

Andrash
WA, 637 posts
21 Oct 2020 7:03PM
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Hybrid_Z said..
Prime example of why this forum has died in the arse. Tom comes in with a reasonable message and the morons swoop in like a flock of retarded seagulls.


...or perhaps this forum died because some fellows in their righteousness call all who dare to defer morons.

Andrash
WA, 637 posts
21 Oct 2020 7:08PM
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eppo said..


but that's the issue with social media, polarises and reduces the arguments to the extremes. Gives voice to those with the loudest.



Or, perhaps, intolerance towards differing opinions drives arguments to the extremes. You must realize, sometimes people hold an argument to the death even when the core of their opinions are not that different.

theDoctor
NSW, 5765 posts
22 Oct 2020 10:35AM
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One dude gives service to the community
The other dude carries around a pet rock

eppo
WA, 9372 posts
22 Oct 2020 3:11PM
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Andrash said..


eppo said..


but that's the issue with social media, polarises and reduces the arguments to the extremes. Gives voice to those with the loudest.





Or, perhaps, intolerance towards differing opinions drives arguments to the extremes. You must realize, sometimes people hold an argument to the death even when the core of their opinions are not that different.



Yep and yep to the beer.

Andrash
WA, 637 posts
23 Oct 2020 7:53AM
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theDoctor said..

One dude gives service to the community
The other dude carries around a pet rock


...and the third one sits safely at the sideline throwing rocks (pet or not) on whomever it pleases...
...but it's cool when it's funny...

theDoctor
NSW, 5765 posts
23 Oct 2020 12:52PM
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With my limp wrists
I can't throw very far

Andrash
WA, 637 posts
23 Oct 2020 12:37PM
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theDoctor said..

With my limp wrists
I can't throw very far


...limp, or not... you seem to have your ways...



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