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Created by Foam 4 months ago, 13 May 2020
towradgi
NSW, 317 posts
26 Jul 2020 1:12PM
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sir ROWDY

Boards have been too small for too long, it's why a lot of people hate riding a twin tip.



Yeh 12 years back some mates were on 125 even 119 lengths...then 135 s....in surf....Some People hated riding twin tip coz they were sick of trying freestyle trix and stuffing up too much ...tearing kite in close and getting injured....and had feeling of inadequacy not graduating to the holy grail of unstrapped surfboards...where with flat surf summers all they do is mow the lawn and can't boost...so are restricted on what they do.

sir ROWDY
WA, 5332 posts
26 Jul 2020 3:09PM
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towradgi said..



sir ROWDY

Boards have been too small for too long, it's why a lot of people hate riding a twin tip.






Yeh 12 years back some mates were on 125 even 119 lengths...then 135 s....in surf....Some People hated riding twin tip coz they were sick of trying freestyle trix and stuffing up too much ...tearing kite in close and getting injured....and had feeling of inadequacy not graduating to the holy grail of unstrapped surfboards...where with flat surf summers all they do is mow the lawn and can't boost...so are restricted on what they do.




I used to ride 110s and even 119's (at one point also with boots). I did so because I was a stupid kid and followed the other sheep (also there were no other options).

I can't see a single drawback of larger boards for 99% of the kiting populous. The only reason we rode tiny boards back in the 00's was because kites had no depower (unless of course you were into board-offs). These days kites have huge range, and there's no reason to ride a boggy tray unless you really want that feeling (sometimes I do).

We are stuck with the delusion that 136 is a small board and 142 is a "big" board because Kiting companies and the industry are slow to change or think outside the box, they simply follow each other and assume that the "norm" is correct.
It really makes me chuckle to see people caught up in thinking a 144 would be "too big" for them when they usually ride a 142, my guess is if they tried a 144 they couldn't even tell a difference, I think you need to jump up at least 5cm in length before you notice much.
I think a lot of people who are on 142s right now would be far better suited on a 150cm or in some cases even a 155cm.
Not many brands will tell you this, because they don't stock them .

Every other boardsport has moved towards larger boards, especially in the beginner to intermediate segment, kiting will follow like it always does, just 10-15years behind.

towradgi
NSW, 317 posts
26 Jul 2020 5:46PM
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Was that your video years back at maybe Pt Walter wearing a hawaiin shirt riding a Maccas tray....

sir ROWDY
WA, 5332 posts
26 Jul 2020 5:40PM
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towradgi said..
Was that your video years back at maybe Pt Walter wearing a hawaiin shirt riding a Maccas tray....


I wore a shirt in a few vids, wave and wakeskate. Was probably Safety Bay.

Boemix
17 posts
14 Aug 2020 1:03AM
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I have been riding a Shinn Ronson 138x42 and I'm so happy with it. It's a so forgiving board and I noticed that when I do kiteloop fails the impact on knees is unbelively soft.

Although I find it a bit power hungry so recently I added a carbon custom 145x44 just for a bit lighter wind twin tip fun, which means have enough speed/height to kiteloop for me.

exone
10 posts
14 Aug 2020 6:48AM
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Boemix, would be interested to know your height and weight; I have just taken delivery of a Ronson 140 and a monk glitch 135. Will sell one of them .Not even got them wet yet. Im at 90kg, 6 ft.

Boemix
17 posts
14 Aug 2020 4:35PM
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I'm 180cm (sorry not familiar with ft.) tall and wheight 85kg but riding like an astronaut as I do with helmet, impact vest and wetsuit... 90 kg too

Peahi
VIC, 1273 posts
14 Aug 2020 9:36PM
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towradgi said..

sir ROWDY

Boards have been too small for too long, it's why a lot of people hate riding a twin tip.




Yeh 12 years back some mates were on 125 even 119 lengths...then 135 s....in surf....Some People hated riding twin tip coz they were sick of trying freestyle trix and stuffing up too much ...tearing kite in close and getting injured....and had feeling of inadequacy not graduating to the holy grail of unstrapped surfboards...where with flat surf summers all they do is mow the lawn and can't boost...so are restricted on what they do.


or going strapless to avoid having to wear a knee brace may be a more practical reason

murrayceff
VIC, 76 posts
28 Aug 2020 8:55PM
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Foam said..
Hi

Thanks for the reply, OK..

Kites 8 11 14
Straps, no boots
Mainly kite at beaches so choppy onshore, but also kite some flat water

I agree that if the conditions were 25knots every session then sure short is good, however in the real world that won't happen.
So 15 to 35 knots

I would suggest to myself 138x42.5 as a example.
135 would be to small at my specs unless as mentioned you were in 25knots every time


If you're mainly kiting in choppy onshore beaches, why not dump the twin tips and just get a surfboard? I wish I had not spent the years on a twin tip that I did. It's really not that hard to ride a strapless surfboard.

RAL INN
VIC, 2841 posts
29 Aug 2020 7:31AM
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I used to think 39cm was optimum width and 135cm best for most riders in most conditions.
But a few weeks ago after a failed search for the fins for my 139x40 Zeeko Bhoot ( for transporting back from WA in 2018).
I pulled out my 2005 125 x 39 Wipika TT.
just plain fun. Plus it rips in waves.

really if you try a few different ones, one will click for you, then make it your own.

Plummet
4740 posts
30 Aug 2020 12:20PM
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Size is only one factor. My last 3 boards have all been 145x45. All 3 completely different rides......

Plummet
4740 posts
30 Aug 2020 12:20PM
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Size is only one factor. My last 3 boards have all been 145x45. All 3 completely different rides......



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