Forums > Kitesurfing Foiling

Which foil to learn jumping?

Reply
Created by KBGhost > 9 months ago, 6 Feb 2020
KBGhost
QLD, 260 posts
6 Feb 2020 12:53PM
Thumbs Up

Bit of a hypothetical for anyone who wants to play along.

I'm looking to put together a 2nd foil to learn strapped jumping. Intermediate foiler with many years of TT jumping under the belt.

I'm guessing something fast and light, and it would need to be plate mount.

Which foil would you choose & why, if money was no object?

Out of what's for sale right now 2nd hand on Seabreeze, which would you choose?

snalberski
WA, 857 posts
6 Feb 2020 12:34PM
Thumbs Up

Select to expand quote
KBGhost said..
Bit of a hypothetical for anyone who wants to play along.

I'm looking to put together a 2nd foil to learn strapped jumping. Intermediate foiler with many years of TT jumping under the belt.

I'm guessing something fast and light, and it would need to be plate mount.

Which foil would you choose & why, if money was no object?

Out of what's for sale right now 2nd hand on Seabreeze, which would you choose?


What have you got at the moment? I think anything will boost although the stupidly overlarge front wing types that many have may present less well (on a guess). My foilboard is a deeptuttle mount and all I've ever done on it (in 3 seasons) is boosting, backrolls and jump rotations., with zero signs of stress. Boosting on a foilboard is no different than boosting on a TT with a couple of exceptions...
you can offer your own 'ramp' by pointing the nose up... and coming in with speed TT style is not recommended (timing of the landing send of the kite needs to be dialled in to avoid wild touch downs)

KBGhost
QLD, 260 posts
6 Feb 2020 8:52PM
Thumbs Up

What I have at the moment is a kick ass Axis foil which has taken a few years to get to where I want it. 545 and 600 wings under a tray 94. It's absolutely perfect for me for strapless surf and general messing about.

Now I have a fantastic Nang 100 board spare and Mitch is about to put some straight strap plugs in for me. I have some straps ready. I just need the right foil. I have a few picks out of the 2nd hand section but I'd like to hear what others would choose.



My jump board to be.. The foil is gone though


snalberski
WA, 857 posts
7 Feb 2020 9:48AM
Thumbs Up

Once you get the straps on try boosting on what you already have ..... visually I can't see anything that would make it less successful than anything else.
Maybe the kite should be more your focus. A floaty foilkite will boost you higher and bring you down slower, though a LEI will work as well with good technique

KBGhost
QLD, 260 posts
7 Feb 2020 1:48PM
Thumbs Up

Appreciate the comments mate there's some good advice there.

End of the day I'm buying a foil to put under the Nang and wondering what other people would choose as a good jump foil. The Moses 590 that sold recently? A race foil? Alloy or carbon?

I was hoping for some discussion on what people rate for jumping, really just because I love discussing foiling and the gear we use. I appreciate any foil will jump (as will literally anything that you can ride on water) but some are more suited than others and if you have a clean slate you might as well buy the right gear for the job.

RAL INN
VIC, 2880 posts
7 Feb 2020 3:00PM
Thumbs Up

The larger wings can offer too much resistance on landing which means overload and breakage.
So what used to be the normal freeride size wings, now considered small, come back to the fray.

get back to those wings and practice.
Jumping only requires getting kite high then sending the foil.
first step is mastering the landing.
point foil down wind a bit and try to spear it in rather than flat land.
this gives best chance of riding away on foil.
theres lots of other things but to start out this will give hours and hours of challenge. Then maybe if you feel like it start down the equipment path of buying yourself more height etc.

NathanG
NSW, 139 posts
8 Feb 2020 1:46PM
Thumbs Up

Ral Inn is spot on.

get the 2017 Zeeko or nail down the shop prices on the LF Thruster.

there is a Maddog on the Gold Coast who launches to the moon on an LF Thurster whenever there is wind...

looking forward to hearing and and seeing your progression.

I plan on mowing the lawn on the hip slow foils. When that get boring, I'll drop the kite and either SUP or prone foil.

Gorgo
VIC, 4911 posts
8 Feb 2020 3:39PM
Thumbs Up

Big wings and flat landings are scary. I've never had anything break but the crunchy, creaky noises are not nice. A smaller wing seems more balanced and more resilient to mistakes.

Try and land tail first. You end up rolling down onto the foil and can often ride away on the foil. Flat or nose first landings can come to an abrupt stop.

I find speed, more than power, the key for a good jump. Bear off. Go fast. Find a ramp. Boom! Don't forget to bring the kite back forward.

Don't panic. You can generally parachute anything out if you hang on.

RAL INN
VIC, 2880 posts
8 Feb 2020 6:23PM
Thumbs Up

I suppose my own experience is jumping the Spitfire. So nose in first starts lift to get me going again plus it's a small front wing ( same size as a stabiliser.)


KBGhost
QLD, 260 posts
8 Feb 2020 9:25PM
Thumbs Up

Loving the comments.

I'm thinking about the Banga or Alecto if I can push to a race foil, would test my skills but would have the speed and lightness being carbon, plus smaller wings for landing as some of you said.

I'm thinking of a cheap zeeko or LF thruster as Nath suggested. I'm considering the cabrinha hi rise speed for a cheap left field option. Similarly there's a North speedster kicking round with 2 masts asking $600. But I've read they break fuselages maybe?

I'm also not ruling out a slingshot silencer or crazy fly up, if those sellers came down to a reasonable price..

So many good options ??



Subscribe
Reply

Forums > Kitesurfing Foiling


"Which foil to learn jumping?" started by KBGhost