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Small low volume foil board

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Created by horey69 > 9 months ago, 18 Jul 2019
CJ2478
NSW, 408 posts
7 Aug 2020 1:15PM
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dafish said..
Nice work, but I love your timber board better ;)

yeah I love that board too. However it's too thin to rout boxes into and having the bolt come down from the top makes it a complete pain In the a$$ to take the foil on and off. I didn't want the crude washer bolt system damaging my new expensive foil when it arrives either.

with all the talk that flat boards are crap I decided to try some rocker in this to see what the fuss is all about. The pvc foam was very easy to form to have rocket in it.

horey69
QLD, 361 posts
17 Aug 2020 7:19AM
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Carbon Co Nang 100 Slingshot FSup
not sure how this will go kiting maybe need to have all ten toes hanging over the nose

Jonesey32
QLD, 48 posts
17 Aug 2020 10:32AM
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horey69 said..
Carbon Co Nang 100 Slingshot FSup
not sure how this will go kiting maybe need to have all ten toes hanging over the nose


That setup should be awesome for the small swell you guys get up there. I've got the same setup, but haven't really given it a good go in the right conditions, because I always just go for the easy options and use my standard wing.

The front foot pressure actually isn't too bad. The last time I took the 84 out, I actually moved the mast back about a 1.5cm from normal (trying to compensate for the extra lift), but actually found I needed too much back foot pressure. It also holds speed surprisingly well for such a massive wing (over 2000cm2...).

When you take it out it, I would recommend leaving a screwdriver on the beach to let you do quick adjustments on the track position - and take a small kite!

I've actually got a photo of my setup on your board!





horey69
QLD, 361 posts
18 Aug 2020 7:21AM
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Chris,
I will move the mast to position B before I use it. The micro is set up with a carbon set up.
Now we just need wind from the NE or SE. In the meantime it's wing skating for me.

Jonesey32
QLD, 48 posts
18 Aug 2020 7:38AM
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horey69 said..
Chris,
I will move the mast to position B before I use it. The micro is set up with a carbon set up.
Now we just need wind from the NE or SE. In the meantime it's wing skating for me.


I haven't tried it on B yet (only on A). B is supposed to be better for pumping, so I'm keen to give that a go as well. I just wasn't sure how much it would affect front foot pressure.

Next NE/SE I'll come up there and give it a go.

Brohan
VIC, 521 posts
23 Aug 2020 1:50PM
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Jonesey32 said..


horey69 said..
Carbon Co Nang 100 Slingshot FSup
not sure how this will go kiting maybe need to have all ten toes hanging over the nose




That setup should be awesome for the small swell you guys get up there. I've got the same setup, but haven't really given it a good go in the right conditions, because I always just go for the easy options and use my standard wing.

The front foot pressure actually isn't too bad. The last time I took the 84 out, I actually moved the mast back about a 1.5cm from normal (trying to compensate for the extra lift), but actually found I needed too much back foot pressure. It also holds speed surprisingly well for such a massive wing (over 2000cm2...).

When you take it out it, I would recommend leaving a screwdriver on the beach to let you do quick adjustments on the track position - and take a small kite!

I've actually got a photo of my setup on your board!






I use the slingshot 76 foil with a 100cm board (kite) and have it in A position and love it. I thought the rear wing should be facing up though?

Jonesey32
QLD, 48 posts
23 Aug 2020 4:37PM
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Brohan said..

Jonesey32 said..



horey69 said..
Carbon Co Nang 100 Slingshot FSup
not sure how this will go kiting maybe need to have all ten toes hanging over the nose





That setup should be awesome for the small swell you guys get up there. I've got the same setup, but haven't really given it a good go in the right conditions, because I always just go for the easy options and use my standard wing.

The front foot pressure actually isn't too bad. The last time I took the 84 out, I actually moved the mast back about a 1.5cm from normal (trying to compensate for the extra lift), but actually found I needed too much back foot pressure. It also holds speed surprisingly well for such a massive wing (over 2000cm2...).

When you take it out it, I would recommend leaving a screwdriver on the beach to let you do quick adjustments on the track position - and take a small kite!

I've actually got a photo of my setup on your board!






I use the slingshot 76 foil with a 100cm board (kite) and have it in A position and love it. I thought the rear wing should be facing up though?


That is the 48cm rear wing, it's designed to go on the bottom and face down.

The 42cm one is designed to go on the top and face up.

horey69
QLD, 361 posts
20 Sep 2020 2:13PM
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Planing on riding this deck for the 2021 season.... Slingshot Dwarf Craft 100

Peahi
VIC, 1308 posts
2 Oct 2020 10:05PM
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warwickl said..
I just use an old skim board for kite foiling that is low volume and was very cheap.
A friend made a board out of ply from Bunnings.
We are just every day guys so that may explain it.
But why spend big $ on a board when spending on the foil is way more beneficial?


Interested to know how you went with a skimboard, I have a 100cm bean shaped I'm thinking of building in foil mounts, which look too easy to be true on a ply board.

Only issue (aside from small size for a beginner) is lack of rocker.

warwickl
NSW, 1540 posts
3 Oct 2020 7:11AM
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warwickl said..
I just use an old skim board for kite foiling that is low volume and was very cheap.
A friend made a board out of ply from Bunnings.
We are just every day guys so that may explain it.
But why spend big $ on a board when spending on the foil is way more beneficial?




Interested to know how you went with a skimboard, I have a 100cm bean shaped I'm thinking of building in foil mounts, which look too easy to be true on a ply board.

Only issue (aside from small size for a beginner) is lack of rocker.



Pictures are when I first set it up, I now have Moses foils.
My board has wood core which is ok for drilling however I use very big washers plus later made an aluminium plate to spread the load.
Now use a foot hook which is way better than a strap as it provides the benefits of a strap and freedom of strapless.
Works perfectly with no issues.




Peahi
VIC, 1308 posts
3 Oct 2020 10:11AM
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Peahi said..






warwickl said..
I just use an old skim board for kite foiling that is low volume and was very cheap.
A friend made a board out of ply from Bunnings.
We are just every day guys so that may explain it.
But why spend big $ on a board when spending on the foil is way more beneficial?








Interested to know how you went with a skimboard, I have a 100cm bean shaped I'm thinking of building in foil mounts, which look too easy to be true on a ply board.

Only issue (aside from small size for a beginner) is lack of rocker.







Pictures are when I first set it up, I now have Moses foils.
My board has wood core which is ok for drilling however I use very big washers plus later made an aluminium plate to spread the load.
Now use a foot hook which is way better than a strap as it provides the benefits of a strap and freedom of strapless.
Works perfectly with no issues.






Cheers Warwick. I would have thought the foil might go further back, what is ideal placement on a 100cm board?

Pilz
WA, 45 posts
7 Oct 2020 6:47PM
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Pilz
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7 Oct 2020 7:11PM
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Pilz
WA, 45 posts
7 Oct 2020 7:26PM
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Just finished some new creations 2x 95cm RAW stubby one with exposed cork and the other with the standard traction pad on deck.
And the RAW peanut ....
Let me know if you are interested...
Pilz 0434016147

KBGhost
QLD, 115 posts
7 Oct 2020 10:15PM
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Your boards are looking awesome there Pilz

I had a go at making one too. 80cm, 1.65kgs inc grip & rear entry tracks. Pretty happy for a first effort. Had a mountain of help from a very skilled mate.

Rides great and super carvy with no swing weight, great for swell.









KBGhost
QLD, 115 posts
7 Oct 2020 10:18PM
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Couple more

Pilz
WA, 45 posts
7 Oct 2020 8:42PM
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Couple more


Your board looks great good effort for first build, like the shape of it..

warwickl
NSW, 1540 posts
8 Oct 2020 4:35PM
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Peahi said..

warwickl said..





Peahi said..







warwickl said..
I just use an old skim board for kite foiling that is low volume and was very cheap.
A friend made a board out of ply from Bunnings.
We are just every day guys so that may explain it.
But why spend big $ on a board when spending on the foil is way more beneficial?









Interested to know how you went with a skimboard, I have a 100cm bean shaped I'm thinking of building in foil mounts, which look too easy to be true on a ply board.

Only issue (aside from small size for a beginner) is lack of rocker.








Pictures are when I first set it up, I now have Moses foils.
My board has wood core which is ok for drilling however I use very big washers plus later made an aluminium plate to spread the load.
Now use a foot hook which is way better than a strap as it provides the benefits of a strap and freedom of strapless.
Works perfectly with no issues.







Cheers Warwick. I would have thought the foil might go further back, what is ideal placement on a 100cm board?


I have a board 110cm from Pilz, pic attached.
With my Moses foils I have the mast at the back of the track.


Peahi
VIC, 1308 posts
8 Oct 2020 7:07PM
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Ok, seems like most foils I see are mounted about one bracket in from the back.

That peanut one above looks almost in the middle.... is that better for a heavier back foot?

horey69
QLD, 361 posts
12 Oct 2020 7:07AM
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Slingshot smallest foil board....Dwarf Craft 100cm or 3'3" next to it the 3'6" Micro Dwarf Craft. Three sessions on the 100 and loving it killer grip, it's like part of my body.


posko
WA, 179 posts
16 Oct 2020 4:31PM
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derek72 said..
Am loving the ideas in this thread, lots of great ideas and innovation and interesting board builds. I am time poor so I bit the bullet and bought a carbon co nang 100 and spoke with Mitchell on the phone about adding some beef to the nose and some more rocker, will post pics when I get the board. I also have an old wakeskate that I have punched four holes in and flattened off a section for the foil plate, I did this when I started to learn foiling earlier this year but could not get up on the north foil I had with it. Now I'm on a 633 (and i can foil now) I might have another go of that board, will see how it goes. Also I have a mate who has bought a wooden flat board - I think from South Africa, he reckons it rides great, also his mate built a tiny carbon board which he uses for lake riding in Europe somewhere, bot interesting looking boards, pics below. I am still keen to buy some bunnings XPS and have a go at bending it and glassing/carbon cloth and see how it goes, just a matter of finding time.









Don't log in here often but was surprised to see my first ever pocket foil board build in the thread. The carbon one 3rd picture down.
Build went as follows;
Found insulation foam on Swiss building site, relocated 1 block for testing purposes.
Made stencil form using balsa wood.
Pinned stencil to foam and cut out.
Wrapped in biaxial carbon first the another layer of normal carbon.
No vacuum.
Tooooo much epoxy.
Zero board making skills or knowledge.
Turned out the board had pin holes all through it and filled with water. Eventually got cut up to remove the mounting boxes. Those boxes were then put in an old shortened sup board to be used for wind winging.

The following photos are of my 3rd and 4th board (second board ended up in Germany I think).
Build went as follows;
Green EPS closed cell foam from carbon composites UK.
Cut with a Stanley knife.
Layered and epoxy glued.
Layed on a wood form for rocker and concave/convex.
Placed on a table whilst layered glue was still wet, vacuumed to desired shape.
Sanded and shaped.
Biaxial carbon vacuumed base.
Sanded shaped.
Normal carbon vacuumed.
Sanded and shaped.
Then repeated on top/deck.
Once complete I sanded the base to a mirror finish, 1200, 3000, then buffed.
Deck was left with peel ply finish for grip.
I didn't use vacuum bags but a large piece of latex double sided taped to a metal frame, C clamped to a table. Thus making it reusable. The vacuum table system belongs to a Longboard skateboard building business here in Zurich. (Fibretec.ch) if you're in West Aust. You can see their board builds at "livid skate cafe" in Scarborough.
Board with tracks 1.9 kg
Board with nut inserts (snowboard binding inserts) 1.3kg

I add a NSI stick on loop to attach a small yellow float cut from pool noodle just to make seeing the dark board easier.

They float well with my GONG Allvator and Project Cedrus foils.

Boards are now 3 years old and showing signs of wear but no issues.












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