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Kite foil that can be used for tow in surfing

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Created by probabli 2 months ago, 26 Nov 2020
probabli
VIC, 25 posts
26 Nov 2020 3:13PM
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I'm looking to upgrade from my north speedster (which was excellent to learn on, as most of the reviews say) and am looking for a foil that I can kite on but could also tow into waves on.

Do anyone know what size foil you need for tow in surfing? I'm not interested in prone foiling but would like to option to tow into waves with the kite foil I buy.

dafish
NSW, 1518 posts
26 Nov 2020 4:50PM
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Armstrong. Most of the dudes in Hawaii are riding them. I have been on an Armstrong setup for a few weeks now and glad I made the switch. Most likely you will need two wings to cross over both, but if you had to get by with one I think the HS1250 front wing and the 232 stab with a 60 fuselage would be fine if you are in the 80 plus kilo range. For kiting the wing will be fantastic for ultra light days, but when it picks up it won't be ideal.

AquaPlow
QLD, 957 posts
27 Nov 2020 7:28AM
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There are a lot of Armstrong frothers (me included)
This link came from stand up paddle section...


Fun to watch.. But idea is same on most foils this size/aspect ratio... So not too lifty profile... The ability to alter the angle of the tail foil is one of the keys to broadening the usable speed range of front wing.. Armstrong have made this really obvious.
I am working on lifting my front wing loading at the moment so going smaller. I need to dominate the foil more... Once I have learnt the foot moves will likely be going back to a larger wing.. 72 pies ATM..
So if u can tack easy then a foil wing u cn comfortably kite on in 15-25knts.. With flexible shim options would nail tow in IMO
Cheers
AP

probabli
VIC, 25 posts
27 Nov 2020 1:13PM
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dafish said..
Armstrong. Most of the dudes in Hawaii are riding them. I have been on an Armstrong setup for a few weeks now and glad I made the switch. Most likely you will need two wings to cross over both, but if you had to get by with one I think the HS1250 front wing and the 232 stab with a 60 fuselage would be fine if you are in the 80 plus kilo range. For kiting the wing will be fantastic for ultra light days, but when it picks up it won't be ideal.


Seems to be the frustrating thing with foiling, it's hard to cross over between two different activities. You'll end up compromising one or the other.

I'll have a look at Armstrong as well as duotone and see how they compare.

PrfctChaos
WA, 68 posts
27 Nov 2020 11:06AM
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I would say the big question is, how fast (read big) are these waves you want to tow into. Anything from a fast kite foil, to a big sup foil might be appropriate depending on the speed (wave size)

hilly
WA, 5834 posts
27 Nov 2020 1:14PM
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probabli said..I'll have a look at Armstrong as well as duotone and see how they compare.





1050 or smaller would be the best option for kite/tow crossover

Fly on da wall
VIC, 718 posts
28 Nov 2020 6:56AM
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I have a Moses 590 and 633. Great for kitesurfing but there's a few other larger wing's for surfing

RAL INN
VIC, 2855 posts
28 Nov 2020 12:57PM
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Have you tried using your current foil to tow in with?
there is plenty enough power in a decent swell to power up even the earlier freeride wings.

NitrousOxide
NSW, 93 posts
28 Nov 2020 2:55PM
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I have the duotone spirit carve 1250 and 950 wings to kitefoil in the waves. The 950 is amazing and can handle bigger waves and high speeds but still has a decent amount of glide so reckon something around that size would work well for tow surfing too.

CH3MTR4IL5
WA, 181 posts
28 Nov 2020 5:44PM
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NitrousOxide said..
I have the duotone spirit carve 1250 and 950 wings to kitefoil in the waves. The 950 is amazing and can handle bigger waves and high speeds but still has a decent amount of glide so reckon something around that size would work well for tow surfing too.


+1 on the 950 carve. I use this for tow-in and kiting and it does well on both. super-fast for a reasonable size foil.

KBGhost
QLD, 123 posts
30 Nov 2020 10:39AM
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I mostly foil an Axis 820 wing although I have smaller wings as well.. It's a big slower wing but carves nicely and works great with smaller kites, had a ball catching swell at Mooloolaba yesterday with the 4m Peak 4 in 20kts. I reckon it would tow in nicely. There's heaps of axis wings traded in the foiling components section so once you have the surf series setup, can collect wings..



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